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Pompous Git
30th January 2008, 11:52 AM
Michael Jackson may go to Grammys

Rumours are swirling in Los Angeles that Michael Jackson will make an appearance at the Grammys on February 10, two days before the release of his 25th anniversary 'remake' of Thriller, still pop's biggest selling album ever, having sold more than 104m copies worldwide over a quarter of a century. Whether Jackson will really show up – and overshadow every other performer invited - or whether it's a marketing ploy by Sony to drum up interest in the Thriller remake, remains to be seen. What is definite is that the Grammys will now go ahead as normal following a deal struck between the striking Writers Guild of America (WGA) and the Recording Academy which runs the Grammys.

It was agreed last week that striking writers would not picket the
music awards, but the WGA and the Screen Actors Guild (SAG) were pressuring Grammy invitees who work as actors as well as singers to stay at home. This has now been resolved and the likes of Beyonce, Justin Timberlake and Queen Latifah are cleared to attend.

Acts lined up top perform at the Grammys include Carrie Underwood, Aretha Franklin, the Foo Fighters, John Paul Jones, Rihanna and a reunion from funk group the Time. As for the likely winners, Kanye West leads all Grammy nominees this year, with eight nods. Amy Winehouse is the other top nominee, with six. Winehouse has said she intends to attend, despite question marks over her visa and the status of her rehab efforts.

With the Grammys getting the go-ahead, all eyes turn to the Oscars. For now, Academy Award organisers insist the show won't be stopped, but the WGA has signaled no intention of granting a waiver, as it did to the Recording Academy, and SAG has said actors won't be crossing any picket lines. Hollywood's biggest night of the year remains in serious doubt.

Source - http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/people,629,michael-jackson-may-go-to-grammys,15367

Marni
31st January 2008, 01:36 AM
Grammy articles are flowing like crazy!

http://www.soundgenerator.com/viewArticle.cfm?ArticleID=18475

Michael Jackson rumoured for Grammy slot
There's also talk of a Super Bowl appearance
By: News Desk
Michael Jackson is being tipped for a surprise appearance at next month's Grammy Awards.

With rumours of an possible live residency at the 02 Arena in London planned this year, as well as recent reports that the pop superstar is set to make a remarkable live comeback at the Super Bowl in March, a live comeback at this year's Grammy Awards seems a definite possibility.

Jackson releases the 25th anniversary edition of 'Thriller' on February 11th, just one day after the awards ceremony, and according to a 'leaked' memo at his record label Sony, the Grammy Awards are the chosen venue for Jackson to begin his comeback.

damien
31st January 2008, 06:56 AM
i dont reckon mj will be involved in the grammys anymore than the fact that off the wall and thriller are being inducted into hall of fame.

Marni
31st January 2008, 06:58 AM
That's what I'm starting to think too. :( LOL. But the rumours are fun and if he shows up, it will be a nice surprise! ;D

damien
31st January 2008, 07:03 AM
That's what I'm starting to think too. :( LOL. But the rumours are fun and if he shows up, it will be a nice surprise! ;D

yeah it would be a nice surprise if he showed up. but to me, an unlikely one.

the talks about the all star tribute to thriller sound good. An MJ cameo at the end would top it off. Like i said, doesnt seem likely. Who knows. MJ reckons theres plenty more to come from him.

MichaelJacksonKingForever
2nd February 2008, 02:57 PM
I hope he will be there!:yes::yes::yes:

damien
2nd February 2008, 03:13 PM
oh i forgot about Thriller & Off The Wall being inducted into Grammy Hall of Fame... thats much bigger and more exciting than T25. I think there is high possibility of him being there.. i mean when inducted into Rock n Roll Hall Of Fame he had a broken foot and was on crotches and still managed to go and accept the induction and made a speech... "There will be no moonwalking tonight" is what he said hahahaha.

damien
5th February 2008, 12:31 PM
Michael Jackson at the Grammy Awards:
Gotta glove it!

Tuesday, February 5th 2008, 4:00 AM

http://www.nydailynews.com/img/2008/02/05/amd_michaeljackson.jpg


Michael Jackson will appear on the 50th anniversary Grammy Awards show, we hear, but he has vowed not to perform.

The Gloved One appears to have won a stare-down with the Grammy-givers at the National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences. For weeks, show producer Ken Ehrlich has been mulling the idea of marking the 25th anniversary of Jackson's "Thriller" album with a revue that would feature guest stars from his rereleased blockbuster, which drops two days after the Feb. 10 broadcast.

The medley number would include Will.i.am (on "The Girl Is Mine"), Fergie (on "Beat It"), and possibly Kanye West (on "Billie Jean") and Akon (on "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'").

Ehrlich said he'd do the tribute only if Jackson sang and danced, say insiders. "Michael can't go along with that," says a source. "He needs more time to rehearse new versions of the songs. And everything requires new choreography."

Now, we hear, Ehrlich has agreed to having Jackson just appear onstage - apparently believing viewers will tune in just to see what Jacko looks like now.

Grammy reps and Jackson spokeswoman Lois Najarian didn't get back to us. But word is Jackson is saving his moves for a show where he'll make some money - a "Thriller" TV special and a series of concerts.

Source:
http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2008/02/05/2008-02-05_michael_jackson_at_the_grammy_awards_got.html

*Hppydyswlldrwnthpn*
5th February 2008, 01:00 PM
Thanks for the update! This is AWESOME!
Doesnt really matter if he doesnt perform, we still get to see him!!
The medley sounds awesome!
:wild: :wild: :wild: :wild: :wild: :wild: :wild: :wild: :wild:

Marni
5th February 2008, 01:03 PM
Doesn't it? OMG! :lol: I can't wait!

Marni
5th February 2008, 10:57 PM
Bumping with new news.

http://music.hollyscoop.com/michael-jackson/michael-jackson-wont-sing-at-grammys_355.aspx

Sorry to disappoint all you Michael Jackson fans, but the former pop superstar will not be performing at the Grammy's this Sunday, but he is still scheduled to make an appearance.

There were rumors that Jackson was going to perform to help promote the 25th anniversary of the re-release of his album 'Thriller' but he was apparently reluctant to take on such a big project in such a short time. The last time Michael performed live was at the World Music Awards, and if you all remember, that didn't go over so well for the singer.

A source tells the New York Post, "Michael can't go along with that. He needs more time to rehearse new versions of the songs. And everything requires new choreography."

Jackson will still be appearing on stage at the awards.

smooth-c
5th February 2008, 11:19 PM
The thing with Michael is, no one ever knows what he is going to do untill he does it!

Jessy
5th February 2008, 11:34 PM
I disagree. I can tell you exactly what he is going to do before he does it.

Noth-ing. When was the last time he "surprised" any of us at an award show? 2001? ... Yeah.... it was a one off thing... people need to let go of the dream that he is going to do it at every single award shows since... lol.

smooth-c
5th February 2008, 11:42 PM
Personally, I think we may see something different this year - but that's just me and my dreams - eveyone elses probably too!

Marni
6th February 2008, 12:23 AM
Well, whatever happens, I'll have to rely on internet updates. Only pay TV gets the Grammys in Australia live. :wot:

damien
6th February 2008, 01:20 AM
im kind of agreeing on the not performing anymore thing. when do we stop hoping? he hasnt performed a full song live onstage since 2002. 6 years ago. yet still EVERY single awards show, we think he is going to. im begining to ask myself why do we think this? and thats a question i never wanted to ask myself.

Jessy
6th February 2008, 01:56 AM
because we need something to keep us sticking around lol.... if we knew he was never gonna perform live again ... do a concert, make a tv appearance, do an interview where he doesn't make himself look like a moron ... then do you think you'd still bother posting, keeping updated, etc?

Noooo.

lol. Don't get me wrong, I love Michael with every fiber that I possess, but ... it gets a bit old waiting every year sitting through those God-awful award shows in hope that he may appear.... even when he no reason to do that lol...

Tony R
6th February 2008, 04:41 PM
im kind of agreeing on the not performing anymore thing. when do we stop hoping? he hasnt performed a full song live onstage since 2002. 6 years ago. yet still EVERY single awards show, we think he is going to. im begining to ask myself why do we think this? and thats a question i never wanted to ask myself.

Today, I offically lose hope in ever seeing Michael live again. Having said that, there's a glimmer of hope in this article. Thriller TV special? But he'll probably sit the audience and watch others slaughter his songs.

And speaking of Jacksons, it turns out that Michael Jackson will make an appearance at this year's Grammy ceremony, however he won't perform as many had hoped.

A medley of his hits are planned including Will.i.am (on "The Girl Is Mine"), Fergie (on "Beat It"), and possibly Kanye West (on "Billie Jean") and Akon (on "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'").

NY's Daily News originally reported that Grammy producer Ken Ehrlich said he'd only do the tribute if Jackson agreed to actually perform.

Later the paper's Rush & Malloy column concluded, "Now, we hear, Ehrlich has agreed to having Jackson just appear onstage - apparently believing viewers will tune in just to see what Jacko looks like now. Grammy reps and Jackson spokeswoman Lois Najarian didn't get back to us. But word is Jackson is saving his moves for a show where he'll make some money - a 'Thriller' TV special and a series of concerts."http://www.sohh.com/articles/article.php/13634

Jessy
6th February 2008, 04:53 PM
But he'll probably sit the audience and watch others slaughter his songs.

Hahaha...

It's funny because that's EXACTLY what it is... an assault on actual musical perfection!

Moonwalker3000
6th February 2008, 11:37 PM
f7tEOz7zk5A&eurl

damien
7th February 2008, 01:29 AM
woo on the ad. thats confirmation enough.

Marni
7th February 2008, 01:32 AM
Grammys Tribute confirmed.

ennazus
7th February 2008, 03:44 AM
But he'll probably sit the audience and watch others slaughter his songs.


LMAO! Agreed. :yes:

Of course most of us wish to see him perform, but heck, at least it is confirmed he is attending the ceremony.

That just gave me a reason to watch the Grammys. I hope Singapore have a live telecast!

DANGEROUS-x
7th February 2008, 07:04 AM
So Fergie, Will I Am, Kanye and Akon are gonna sing over MJs vocals? :mellow:

Wtf. Okay.. wait let me watch the video first. :lol:

damien
7th February 2008, 07:17 AM
LMAO! Agreed. :yes:

Of course most of us wish to see him perform, but heck, at least it is confirmed he is attending the ceremony.

That just gave me a reason to watch the Grammys. I hope Singapore have a live telecast!

its not confirmed he will attend.. it is only confirmed that other people will tribute thriller.

Beret Hips
7th February 2008, 01:23 PM
Ahhh :wild: I can't wait :D

Marni
7th February 2008, 01:31 PM
So Fergie, Will I Am, Kanye and Akon are gonna sing over MJs vocals? :mellow:

Wtf. Okay.. wait let me watch the video first. :lol:

LOL. You're too funny!

Ahhh :wild: I can't wait :D

Me neither! :wild:

The_Glove
7th February 2008, 01:49 PM
Sweet man homage to the king is enough for me!

damien
7th February 2008, 03:01 PM
Sweet man homage to the king is enough for me!

enough for me too! better than nothing!

BillieJeanDarling
7th February 2008, 03:35 PM
I wonder what's it gonna be like. :)

Can't wait!

Jack Is Dangerous
7th February 2008, 06:16 PM
Looks promising :)

tinker*bell
7th February 2008, 08:37 PM
oh i forgot about Thriller & Off The Wall being inducted into Grammy Hall of Fame... thats much bigger and more exciting than T25. I think there is high possibility of him being there.. i mean when inducted into Rock n Roll Hall Of Fame he had a broken foot and was on crotches and still managed to go and accept the induction and made a speech... "There will be no moonwalking tonight" is what he said hahahaha.

Aw! Him so cute :wub:
Is there any footage? ;)



f7tEOz7zk5A&eurl

Oh... My... Goooooood!!! :wild: :wild: :wild:
That certainly got me excited! :D

And I just found out that a channel will be broadcasting the Grammys LIVE here!!! :D

Can't wait!!!!

Moonwalker3000
7th February 2008, 09:10 PM
For those of you who would like to watch the Grammy's live on-line, download the TVU Player (http://www.tvunetworks.com/). It's an on-line television channel-streaming program, allowing you to watch certain international channels live.

CBS is available, which will be broadcasting the event :)

Broadcasting times @ Monday 11th February 2008:

UK: 4am
Japan: 1pm
Australia: 3pm
Iran: 7:30am
Argentina: 1am

The_Glove
7th February 2008, 10:12 PM
Lmao.

Forget that 4am must be joking.
Last time i did that was for the Ricky Hatton fight the other month.

tinker*bell
7th February 2008, 10:36 PM
For those of you who would like to watch the Grammy's live on-line, download the TVU Player (http://www.tvunetworks.com/). It's an on-line television channel-streaming program, allowing you to watch certain international channels live.

CBS is available, which will be broadcasting the event :)

Broadcasting times @ Monday 11th February 2008:

UK: 4am
Japan: 1pm
Iran: 7:30am
Argentina: 1am





wow, thanks for the tip!! ;)

I'm sure it will be useful to a lot of people!! :yes:

Marni
7th February 2008, 10:40 PM
For those of you who would like to watch the Grammy's live on-line, download the TVU Player (http://www.tvunetworks.com/). It's an on-line television channel-streaming program, allowing you to watch certain international channels live.

CBS is available, which will be broadcasting the event :)

Broadcasting times @ Monday 11th February 2008:

UK: 4am
Japan: 1pm
Iran: 7:30am
Argentina: 1am




Thank you Dan! That's 3pm for Australians! I am downloading now... :happy:

Moonwalker3000
7th February 2008, 11:02 PM
Thank you Dan! That's 3pm for Australians! I am downloading now... :happy:

No problem :)

Edited :wink:

(I wasn't sure what to put for Australia as it crosses like 4 time zones, it's so big! :blink:)

damien
7th February 2008, 11:58 PM
wow ill be downloading that program for sure! cant wait to watch it!

Marni
8th February 2008, 12:01 AM
Oh that would Australian (Sydney time) We do have 4 time zones. :lol:

Chell
8th February 2008, 10:10 AM
Ooooo, exciting! I just wanna see new pictures of him. :wub:

Thanks for the link Dan!

damien
8th February 2008, 10:17 AM
someone need to burst into MJ home and steal ALL his sunnies!

someone should email Raymone and ask her to hide them all!

Marni
8th February 2008, 10:30 AM
someone need to burst into MJ home and steal ALL his sunnies!

someone should email Raymone and ask her to hide them all!


LOL. :cool:

*Hppydyswlldrwnthpn*
8th February 2008, 11:10 AM
oOo thanks for the link! i think 4 in the morn ever so slightly early for me tho. Ummm.. ill give it a go lol! A tribute is enough for me if he doesnt attend. There may be a video message?
^ LOL at the sunnies!

Luluvine
8th February 2008, 07:10 PM
I have a good feeling he will make an appearance. The grammies are doing a special tribute to Thriller and why wouldn't Michael show up for that? I hear he is rehearsing for a recreate performance of Billie Jean but of course the article came from FOX news, which I have a hard time believeing anything that comes from FOX. So we will just have to wait and see Grammy night wether Michael makes his appearance or not. If he performs or not I don't mind I just want to see him. :)

Moonwalker3000
8th February 2008, 08:16 PM
UK fans -

E! Entertainment Television will be broadcasting their usual 'Live From The Red Carpet' at the Grammy Awards from 11pm on Sunday 10th.

E! can be found on Sky Digital channel 152

MJISHOT
8th February 2008, 08:31 PM
would be awesome just to even see Michael there! A performance would be an added bonus! :cool:

tinker*bell
8th February 2008, 08:43 PM
someone need to burst into MJ home and steal ALL his sunnies!

someone should email Raymone and ask her to hide them all!

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee18/finding_wonderland/Smilies/laugh.gif
Agreed!! :happy:



UK fans -

E! Entertainment Television will be broadcasting their usual 'Live From The Red Carpet' at the Grammy Awards from 11pm on Sunday 10th.

E! can be found on Sky Digital channel 152

Yay! E! will be broadcasting it here too! :D
And as much as I don't believe there will be a performance from Michael, I think he will attend! ;)
So, that means he will be appearing on the red carpet, right?? :wild: (if he goes)

Scare Bear
8th February 2008, 09:43 PM
Aw, sweet! :] I can't remember the last time I've seen him on TV...I'm so excited. x3

Marni
9th February 2008, 12:29 AM
This is from Mjfan24 (Thank you for the info!):

i just saw here on tv on access hollywood Michael will not appear at this year grammy put the all star tribute it is still on i heard somethng about Kayne west doing a perfomance and few other stars

Starchild
9th February 2008, 02:15 AM
can't wait!!! The only other time I saw MJ on TV was during the court cases and the Ba**** Interviews....and that's only cause my mom hates MJ...

smooth-c
9th February 2008, 02:34 AM
WHAT! how very well dare her!! meh - we all like different things..




but still!

Marni
9th February 2008, 02:48 AM
New news:

http://thecelebritytruth.com/no-michael-jackson-performance-at-grammys/00924

No Michael Jackson Performance At Grammys


http://thecelebritytruth.com/assets/Uploads/Michael-Jackson.jpg
Reports that Michael Jackson will stage a comeback at this weekend's Grammy Awards are apparently incorrect, with the the Executive Producer of the show dismissing the rumors as speculation.
With the 25th anniversary of Jackson's legendary album 'Thriller' falling this weekend, pundits were anticipating a performance from the King of Pop to relaunch his career leading up to an album of new material later this year.
However, Executive Producer of the Grammy Awards, Ken Ehrlich, has denied the reports, telling TV's 'Extra' that Jackson will not be taking the stage this Sunday night at the Staples Center in Los Angeles.

damien
9th February 2008, 02:59 AM
^ that was bound to happen.

ennazus
9th February 2008, 03:37 AM
Oh darnit! I thought he was attending.

Oh well, I'll watch the Grammys for the tribute!

Marni
9th February 2008, 03:44 AM
At this stage, it doesn't look like it. :sad: But we never know till we see!

Jessy
9th February 2008, 05:13 AM
yup I heard MJ isn't gonna be there either. What's the point? Again, hype for nothing.

mjmusicfan
9th February 2008, 06:15 AM
No performance / No attendance :sad:

1983 ALBUM OF THE YEAR
Thriller
Michael Jackson http://estb.msn.com/i/99/EFE0231D705FD3E5FDDCBB5C7B271.jpg
What a difference 25 years make????

Marni
9th February 2008, 06:26 AM
I don't understand why he should be there- I mean he's not winning anything. :lol: And there's no reason to promote -seriously, have you done a google news search for "Thriller"? :blink: Peeps have gone Thriller crazy. :lol:

mjmusicfan, that pic is HOT!

mjmusicfan
9th February 2008, 06:52 AM
I don't understand why he should be there- I mean he's not winning anything. :lol: And there's no reason to promote -seriously, have you done a google news search for "Thriller"? :blink: Peeps have gone Thriller crazy. :lol:

mjmusicfan, that pic is HOT!

I can agree with that statement / If MJ is not ready to
be back on stage or to be in public, thats ok with me
But I think some people may be a bit disappointed because
in terms of his musical career, Thriller is one of Michael's greatest achievements and since he received 8 grammy
awards 25 years ago and they are paying tribute to
the 25th anniversary of the album, you would think the
artist would be there to join in the celebration. I am
sure the album does not need any promotion..

Jessy
9th February 2008, 07:07 AM
lol, I don't see why he should either... but MJ fans do this every yr they hype every award show up expecting that he is gonna be there, or dreaming that he'll be there and any tiny single "surprise" that they say is in store OMGZ ITS TOTALLEH GOTTA BE MJZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!!111111111ONE

And then you can't help feeling a bit annoyed when it turns out its not the case (just like every other yr)

Personally I still don't see the point in T25, and if he really does want it hyped up he should make some appearances. There's no point putting out something if you plan to do zilch to back it up... It'll be just like Invincible II ...

Marni
9th February 2008, 07:07 AM
I can agree with that statement / If MJ is not ready to
be back on stage or to be in public, thats ok with me
But I think some people may be a bit disappointed because
in terms of his musical career, Thriller is one of Michael's greatest achievements and since he received 8 grammy
awards 25 years ago and they are paying tribute to
the 25th anniversary of the album, you would think the
artist would be there to join in the celebration. I am
sure the album does not need any promotion..

Now that's a different perspective, and I understand that. :yes:

What I don't understand is the "wasted opportunity" thing that some fans have been saying. But it would be great to see him there, even if it's just in the audience for the celebration. :)

Tony R
9th February 2008, 08:49 AM
The thing with the 'wasted opportunity' is that, millions of people throughout the world (especially in America) have forgotton the depth of Michael's talent. To this generation Michael is the stuff of tabloid fodder and rumour.

If he performed at the Grammys and sung live, it would be amazing and remind everybody why he is the 'King Of Pop' and a legend.

Also, if he wants T25 to be a success, he could perform all 4 songs with the artists live on stage. It would sell millions the next day alone like the original Thriller after Motown 25.

If he doesn't want to perform, then he doesn't want to and fair enough. But he should stop saying things like 'I promise you something exciting' and 'you ain't seen nothing yet' then stop delivering.

I have enough in my collection to keep me happy for the rest of my life but I feel like I'm just getting teased with the allure of new material & performances. I'd rather he'd just say if he was retiring then I'd wish him well and at least I'd know.

I don't think I'm being selfish here, I'd fully understand after the last 5 years if he wanted to say goodbye to it all. I just want to know. More importantly, I'd like him to show the world just one more time why he is the best.

Marni
9th February 2008, 09:04 AM
The thing with the 'wasted opportunity' is that, millions of people throughout the world (especially in America) have forgotton the depth of Michael's talent. To this generation Michael is the stuff of tabloid fodder and rumour.

If he performed at the Grammys and sung live, it would be amazing and remind everybody why he is the 'King Of Pop' and a legend.

Also, if he wants T25 to be a success, he could perform all 4 songs with the artists live on stage. It would sell millions the next day alone like the original Thriller after Motown 25.

If he doesn't want to perform, then he doesn't want to and fair enough. But he should stop saying things like 'I promise you something exciting' and 'you ain't seen nothing yet' then stop delivering.

I have enough in my collection to keep me happy for the rest of my life but I feel like I'm just getting teased with the allure of new material & performances. I'd rather he'd just say if he was retiring then I'd wish him well and at least I'd know.

I don't think I'm being selfish here, I'd fully understand after the last 5 years if he wanted to say goodbye to it all. I just want to know. More importantly, I'd like him to show the world just one more time why he is the best.

Ok, so this is exactly what I don't get. That means every year, minus 1988, is a wasted opportunity. Michael only ever performed once at the Grammys. I do not understand why this years Grammy's is a wasted opportunity. There are plenty of other awards shows. And there is the future.

Now, why on earth does Michael have to promote Thriller 25? Why? Please tell me because I really don't understand. This is a SONY project. Sony created, sony backed and sony promoted. The world is already going Thriller nuts. This album will be number 1 in several countries without personal promotion.

I don't understand why he should or needs to promote it. No other artist that I know of has EVER promoted a re-release or greatest hits package and why should they? They already did the promo ages ago. It's a re-release, not a friggen new album! It's up to the record company to do promo on re-releases if they want it to go #1.

Didn't Number 1's hit number 1 and stay on the chart for years? And it had NO promotion.

The way I see it, people know he's a legend, and if they don't, they will see it when he drops the new album. There's no reason for him to waste his energy promoting a re-release.

:)

Jessy
9th February 2008, 09:14 AM
Its not just this.... there have been MANY wasted opportunities... It is not every yr... Just sometimes MJ has certain opportunities and doesn't embrace them...Anyone remember the WMAs? ... You don't? Oh that's right... cos he didn't DO anything... There have been heaps of wasted moments with MJ... you can't get mad at fans for being a bit upset....

I personally don't expect anything huge and no he doesnt OWE me anything, and my support is by choice not by force -- but it would just be nice to see him now and then not delivering the same tired message over and over again and accepting made-up awards.

Tony R
9th February 2008, 09:17 AM
Good Morning Marni.

I do see what you're saying and when we first heard of the project I'd have agreed with you. But on that French awards video Michael was talking about the project like it was his own and the whole vibe around it is that it is an MJ album.

He said stuff like, I have been working on an exciting new project etc...

I've read this week negative(ish) stuff like, if we're lucky Michael may wave to the crowd at the Grammys and I reluctantly agree. It's all anyone is used to seeing. At one point it seems Mike is all ready for a comeback and then....nothing.

The thing is, it's not for me, I just want Mike to be catapulted back to the top where he belongs.

The_Glove
9th February 2008, 09:25 AM
There will be plenty of opportunies too come. It hasn't even been realesed yet.

And doesnt the promotion for T25 start AFTER it is realeased?

If he might have been working on the project and help put it together, But it might just stop their. Probabaly no intention of performing.

Marni
9th February 2008, 09:32 AM
Its not just this.... there have been MANY wasted opportunities... It is not every yr... Just sometimes MJ has certain opportunities and doesn't embrace them...Anyone remember the WMAs? ... You don't? Oh that's right... cos he didn't DO anything... There have been heaps of wasted moments with MJ... you can't get mad at fans for being a bit upset....

I personally don't expect anything huge and no he doesnt OWE me anything, and my support is by choice not by force -- but it would just be nice to see him now and then not delivering the same tired message over and over again and accepting made-up awards.

I guess nothing's been announced, not even an award, so I kinda don't understand the speculation in the fan world... Like a tribute has been announced, that's it. No "official" person has ever said he was going, so I honestly wouldn't and don't understand if fans are disappointed if he doesn't go.

Of course it would be nice to see him, I just don't get this 'Michael has to promote it or it will flop" mentality. :blink: Seriously, it's a re-release. And if a re-release flops, there's honestly not much to be concerned about, I mean Thriller already sold 104 million copies. :lol:

I understand what you're saying, I really do.
Good Morning Marni.

I do see what you're saying and when we first heard of the project I'd have agreed with you. But on that French awards video Michael was talking about the project like it was his own and the whole vibe around it is that it is an MJ album.

He said stuff like, I have been working on an exciting new project etc...

I've read this week negative(ish) stuff like, if we're lucky Michael may wave to the crowd at the Grammys and I reluctantly agree. It's all anyone is used to seeing. At one point it seems Mike is all ready for a comeback and then....nothing.

The thing is, it's not for me, I just want Mike to be catapulted back to the top where he belongs.
Of course he will make it sound more personal. The reality is that it's simply not as personal as we think it is. Fergie didn't even meet him or speak to him prior to making Beat It 2008... :lol: I think at one stage I was like "Oh yeah he's worked really hard on it" (which he has, just not as much as previously though) but now I realize it's Sony's project. Mj hasn't been involved in any of these "official" websites and promotional stuff- it's all Sony.

With the negative stuff- like off comments, really it's nothing. It's better than comments about his skin and nose. :lol:

Blah, I guess I don't understand withe stress over a re-release, that's all.

Just another thing- I don't even understand where the tribute to Michael fits in really- I mean he's not getting an award! :lol: I guess it's the celebration right...

Tony R
9th February 2008, 09:37 AM
It's not stress, and it's not the fact that it's a re-release. It's because for the last 18 months we've been getting teased with rumours of a comeback. We're all expecting a new album, we expected Superbowl performance and then Grammy's. Thats why myself, Mermaid & others feel let down.

Although I'd like a performance to add to T25 sales, thats not why I want hime to do it. It's like I said earlier, to remind everyone what Michael Jackson is all about.

Jessy
9th February 2008, 09:49 AM
Thanks Tony, you're putting it way better than I am. I am feeling a bit emotional about the whole thing. I didn't think I was going to pay money for T25, but when I went to the music store today I heard it blasting out and felt a sense of pride so before I knew it, I had it in my hands, got caught up in the hype and bought it. While in line, I heard someone say, "She has it..." and I looked up and a woman asked me qs, "Is it new? What is new about it? Do you think it's worth it to buy?" and ... I felt my pride overtake as I told her how amazing it was and how worth it it really is, and so she purchased it.

When I was at the check out the guy who works there was SO EXCITED and asked me a million questions about what I thought of the new tracks. He said he was so-so- on WBSS, and LOVED the Kanye remix and asked me what I thought, when I told him MJ was working on a new album he flipped and wanted ALL my sources of info... and I walked out feeling REALLY over the moon and proud to be a fan...

And even better when I flogged it out of my car stereo on the way home...

And I can't help but to sit back and feel nostalgically annoyed with MJ because I believe people want to see him triumph again. People say crap, but they will be the first ones on their feet clapping their hands and praising his talent...

Regardless of if it's a rerelease or not -- its got NEW material, if he wants to get behind it like he says he does, then he should stop being so half-arsed about everything yanno? It's like... sh!t or get off the pot!

Marni
9th February 2008, 11:10 AM
I do want to see him... really I do, Maybe I feel "meh" about the Grammy's coz I feel they stiffed him for so many years. He should be getting some kind of award of recognition. :lol: But I guess it would be made up again, hey. Anyways, I get that this is the year for 25th of Thriller, I just don't think he should even be there, but it's my opinion. :)

damien
9th February 2008, 02:25 PM
think of it this way...

there is ONE performance that NO ONE at the grammys recording bunch are gonna reveal, because theyre billed as a SURPRISE performance.... if it were say Madona (just as an example) they would HAVE to say "no madona is not performing" in order for the "surprise" to be effective.... same for IF (i say if) it was to be MJ... even IF he WAS going to perform, if he was the SURPRISE performance then there is NO way they would reveal that 2 - 3 days in advance!

So either MJ is the surprise like RF says (which would mean Grammys would DENY his performance)

OR he is NOT performing (meaning Grammys would DENY his performance)

Either way, be someone denying the rumour, we know NO more than we did before the queston was asked ;)

Marni
10th February 2008, 10:48 AM
For those of you who would like to watch the Grammy's live on-line, download the TVU Player (http://www.tvunetworks.com/). It's an on-line television channel-streaming program, allowing you to watch certain international channels live.

CBS is available, which will be broadcasting the event :)

Broadcasting times @ Monday 11th February 2008:

UK: 4am
Japan: 1pm
Australia: 3pm
Iran: 7:30am
Argentina: 1am




Just a reminder about this. ;)

Go to the Grammy's website (http://www.cbs.com/specials/50grammys/)to find US times, or post them here if you know. I will be watching live from this computer at 3pm Australian EST and I'll be updating this thread as it happens. :)

Jessy
10th February 2008, 10:50 AM
Part of me has my fingers crossed and part of me wants MJ to stay away.... lol.

pepsi
10th February 2008, 06:20 PM
oooooooooo its getting closer now, but there's rumours now about MJ flying back to Vegas but we just don't know!! Lol exciting stuff eh....

*Hppydyswlldrwnthpn*
10th February 2008, 06:59 PM
Gah!
I suppose we'll all know by tomorow.

tinker*bell
10th February 2008, 07:34 PM
Ooooh! He's not attending?? :sad:
Nooo!! :sad:
Well, I'm watching anyway... :laughing:

I do agree with everything you said, Marni. He really doesn't need to go or promote anything... But I wanted to see hiiiim!! :D


It's not stress, and it's not the fact that it's a re-release. It's because for the last 18 months we've been getting teased with rumours of a comeback. We're all expecting a new album, we expected Superbowl performance and then Grammy's. Thats why myself, Mermaid & others feel let down.

Although I'd like a performance to add to T25 sales, thats not why I want hime to do it. It's like I said earlier, to remind everyone what Michael Jackson is all about.

I can't help but agreeing with Tony as well. I want to see him at the top! And soon!! :yes:

But I think his not attending the Grammy's or performing at the Superbowl doesn't have anything to do with the new album. It's so early in the year... He'll still have plenty of time to release his new material!! :D

I agree it would be great if he did show up at these events, though. I don't know 'bout the places where you all live, but here, young people doesn't seem to know or care about MJ in any way. They all have this tabloid-made image about him and don't even bother to see if it's true or not. So, if he appeared more often doing what he does best, I think it would help somehow. :unsure:
But that's just my opinion! :)

wes
10th February 2008, 10:48 PM
If anyone is interested you can watch it online here: http://pages.tvunetworks.com/channels/#

Just choose CBS. It airs at 4am UK time

tinker*bell
10th February 2008, 10:51 PM
Hmmm... It's starting at 11 p.m. here

But I'll only be home by 11:30. Do you guys think I'm gonna miss anything interesting?? :unsure:

Marni
10th February 2008, 11:44 PM
I am confused about times... someone else said it starts in an hour and a half (12 midday in Australia) but is the red carpet show over? :unsure:

mjmusicfan
11th February 2008, 12:16 AM
In the USA It starts at 8:00 pm eastern time / 5:00 pm Los Angeles time (pacific). 1:00 am GMT time in the U.K.
It should begin in the next 45 minutes

Marni
11th February 2008, 12:19 AM
Ok, thank you so much. It starts at 12 midday Aussie time then. :)

mjmusicfan
11th February 2008, 12:42 AM
Grammys Red Carpet Arrivals. No Michael //

Click on the link for Pictures /click on menu
Janet jackson's arrival is at 130 & 131
http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/red-carpet-fashion-arrivals

Marni
11th February 2008, 02:02 AM
Thank you!

According to posts at MJJC both Akon and Seal have mentioned Michael. It's a bit of a tease. I can't get this damn TVU player to work. :(

I am trying to get a live feed, but it's not happening. I do know that Rihanna has performed Please Don't Stop the music and Michael hasn't shown up so far.

tinker*bell
11th February 2008, 02:08 AM
And my sister told me that in the end of Don't Stop the Music, she sang a little bit of Thriller...

But I don't know if it's true 'cause I wasn't watching.

Marni
11th February 2008, 02:10 AM
Dammit. I don't have it on radio after all. I have the stupid pre-tel awards!! Far out. Looks like I can't update. :(

I'll keep trying anyways...

tinker*bell
11th February 2008, 02:14 AM
Beyonce and Tina Turner have just performed. :)

Marni
11th February 2008, 03:11 AM
No MJ updates at this point. :) They did, however, show the Thrillicious ad in America. :)

ennazus
11th February 2008, 03:57 AM
So far, no MJ at all.
There's a mention of MJ in Kanye's performance. x:

Marni
11th February 2008, 04:02 AM
So far, no MJ at all.
There's a mention of MJ in Kanye's performance. x:

Thankyou! :happy:

Thanks to this blog (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/extendedplay/2008/02/grammys-live.html), (and our friends in america) there are up to the minute updates. Only half hour to go of the show from what i can tell, and Amy Winehouse won Record of the Year for "Rehab"

Starchild
11th February 2008, 04:05 AM
no mj yet just very slow sleepishly tiring music....i never saw grammies before this, is it always this slow? I just worked 8 hours I want to be awake if MJ shows up....anyone know how much longer it is?

ennazus
11th February 2008, 04:12 AM
This is also my first time watchin the Grammys as a whole show, usually I'll change channel when I don't see what I like. This time, I don't even dare to change channel. LOL!

I guess another 20 mins more, and the show will be over. Cos the time schedule I saw for me, 12.30pm is the end of the show. And it is already 12.10pm. (In Singapore).

I guess they are saving the best for the last. Hopefully.

Starchild
11th February 2008, 04:14 AM
This is also my first time watchin the Grammys as a whole show, usually I'll change channel when I don't see what I like. This time, I don't even dare to change channel. LOL!

I guess another 20 mins more, and the show will be over. Cos the time schedule I saw for me, 12.30pm is the end of the show. And it is already 12.10pm. (In Singapore).

I guess they are saving the best for the last. Hopefully.

so many people on msn sayin he'll be a no show....it's very late here in Canada too, I'm really tired but I'm doing my best to see if he shows up, if he don't I'll be very angry....more disapointed, but you get it....

Marni
11th February 2008, 04:19 AM
I really hope they are saving the best for last.
MJ was never going to appear anyways- I posted earlier in this thread that the producer of the show said Michael would not be there. But the MJ tribute is expected because they advertised it.

ennazus
11th February 2008, 04:20 AM
I doubt he'll appear in person, but I hope they get on with the tribute. Is already 12.20pm now! =.= Unless, they aren't ending the show anytime soon. But tt's crazy, they started the show at 9am.

Starchild
11th February 2008, 04:21 AM
me too, but so far there's no sign that MJ even exists there

Marni
11th February 2008, 04:23 AM
Thanks so much for updating guys! :grin:

tinker*bell
11th February 2008, 04:23 AM
10 minutes to go... Nothing yet!!! :sad:

ennazus
11th February 2008, 04:25 AM
Now is will.i.am, hopefully it is gonna lead to the tribute!
I'm convinced it is here now, especially with Quincy is on stage now!

Oh yeah, I totally forgot the last award.

Another MJ update, I heard Beat It in will.i.am performance. Just a short snippet!

Marni
11th February 2008, 04:25 AM
10 minutes to go... Nothing yet!!! :sad:

They always run overtime don't they? :unsure:

ennazus
11th February 2008, 04:29 AM
^ I hope they do. And Star World better not cut stop the program at 12.30pm sharp.

Marni
11th February 2008, 04:30 AM
Anything yet? :unsure:

tinker*bell
11th February 2008, 04:31 AM
Oh Gosh!!! Is there time???

I'm really nervous now! :sad:

Marni
11th February 2008, 04:32 AM
This from the update blog:

8:15 p.m. John Fogerty, Jerry Lee Lewis and Little Richard. "Great Balls of Fire" is the centerpiece of this nostalgia convention, which felt a bit like a museum exhibit. It's almost 8:30, when this thing is supposed to end, and still no Jackson tribute, which was teased in the commercial

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/extendedplay/2008/02/grammys-live.html

ennazus
11th February 2008, 04:32 AM
Nothing yet. =.= Now is the commercials.

tinker*bell
11th February 2008, 04:33 AM
commercials...
i think it's the last bit of it now.

Hopefully it will be the Tribute!!! :unsure:

Starchild
11th February 2008, 04:34 AM
darn commercials!!! where's the tribute, and yeah I heard Beat It in the Will.I.Am song too!

Marni
11th February 2008, 04:34 AM
Nothing yet. =.= Now is the commercials.

Crazy. I am getting really nervous and I can't even see the damn show. :lol:

tinker*bell
11th February 2008, 04:37 AM
Oh Noooo!!!!
It's over!!! :mellow:

ennazus
11th February 2008, 04:38 AM
The show ended. Now I'm pretty ****ed off! =.=

Starchild
11th February 2008, 04:39 AM
where's the MJ tribute!!!!!!!!!

Marni
11th February 2008, 04:39 AM
Oh Noooo!!!!
It's over!!! :mellow:

It didn't even run over time? :mellow:

Far out. This sucks. I can see letters to Grammy's filling their inbox as we speak.... They deserve a kicking for teasing it and not making it happen. :sad:

tinker*bell
11th February 2008, 04:40 AM
I can't believe it!!!!! :angry:

Really. WTF!!! :angry:

Starchild
11th February 2008, 04:40 AM
they advertised MJ tributes and there wasn't even anything about him anywhere!!!!

ennazus
11th February 2008, 04:41 AM
Exactly. Goodness. I feel so cheated. LOL
Makin me wake up early just for nothing.

Marni
11th February 2008, 04:41 AM
That is utter bull****. They did say he wasn't going to be there but they still teased the tribute. Let's get letter writing y'all. This sucks.

Starchild
11th February 2008, 04:44 AM
i'm so angry I coulda been in bed hours ago! I just got home from work, I started at 10am I'm tired, and then I get jipped out of a bull **** false advertisement!!!!

damien
11th February 2008, 04:46 AM
**** that seriously it was in the ****ing TV ad!

Marni
11th February 2008, 04:46 AM
i'm so angry I coulda been in bed hours ago! I just got home from work, I started at 10am I'm tired, and then I get jipped out of a bull **** false advertisement!!!!

False advertising indeed. I don't wanna see Michael take the blame for this. I am glad he didn't show now, coz the tribute was an obvious lie.

Starchild
11th February 2008, 04:47 AM
False advertising indeed. I don't wanna see Michael take the blame for this. I am glad he didn't show now, coz the tribute was an obvious lie.

you know they will, that's the media for you, they will blame anything and everything on MJ. a dog ****es the wrong way and they'll say he has something to do with it!

Marni
11th February 2008, 04:49 AM
you know they will, that's the media for you, they will blame anything and everything on MJ. a dog ****es the wrong way and they'll say he has something to do with it!

Exactly :laughing:

now to construct my letter to the Grammy's :whistle:

ennazus
11th February 2008, 04:49 AM
They got all MJ fans hyped up and this happened.
I'm writing them an email for wasting my time.
Fishing bullpoop!

Stranger In Maine
11th February 2008, 04:51 AM
I just sent them a nasty email about it, with the subject being FALSE ADVERTISING!

Marni
11th February 2008, 04:51 AM
They got all MJ fans hyped up and this happened.
I'm writing them an email for wasting my time.
Fishing bullpoop!

Absolutely. How annoying!! :rant: So many fans were so dedicated, staying up or getting up early to give updates, and basically not a single MJ mention. :mellow:

ennazus
11th February 2008, 04:56 AM
^ Exactly!

I'm really disappointed now. Although I'm not a huge fan of people re-singing MJ's songs, but is always great to see other artistes showin their love and respect for him!

Now, does anyone know how can we email Grammys? (:

tinker*bell
11th February 2008, 04:58 AM
MusiCares@grammy.com

If anyone wants to complain...
I'm definitely going to!!! :realmad:

What were they thinking???
Some of us sacrificed their night's precious hours of sleep!

Ridiculous! :angry:

Marni
11th February 2008, 04:59 AM
^ Exactly!

I'm really disappointed now. Although I'm not a huge fan of people re-singing MJ's songs, but is always great to see other artistes showin their love and respect for him!

Now, does anyone know how can we email Grammys? (:

Yes, please share email addresses and what you wrote. :yes: That would help us very much. :happy:

ennazus
11th February 2008, 05:01 AM
I woke up at 8 plus just to watch the show, when I slept at 3 plus last night. =.=
I think most of us are ****ed off, because of the false advertising part.

I mean it is fine if they don't do a tribute, but since you advertise it, then show it.

Starchild
11th February 2008, 05:03 AM
it was all for ratings! they wanted higher ratings so they screw us over!!!

tinker*bell
11th February 2008, 05:05 AM
I woke up at 8 plus just to watch the show, when I slept at 3 plus last night. =.=
I think most of us are ****ed off, because of the false advertising part.

I mean it is fine if they don't do a tribute, but since you advertise it, then show it.

Exactly!
I wasn't expecting to see MJ attending or performing or anything. I was satisfied with the promised tribute.
But then NOTHING?? Like... nothing?!?! :realmad:

Ok, we got 2 seconds of Beat it. Was that the tribute?? :rolleyes:

Marni
11th February 2008, 05:06 AM
I woke up at 8 plus just to watch the show, when I slept at 3 plus last night. =.=
I think most of us are ****ed off, because of the false advertising part.

I mean it is fine if they don't do a tribute, but since you advertise it, then show it.

I am mentioning in my letter that many dedicated Mj fans stayed up late to catch the telecast for the tribute that did not happen. :rant:

it was all for ratings! they wanted higher ratings so they screw us over!!!

Now that's something I didn't think of!

Starchild
11th February 2008, 05:09 AM
Exactly!
I wasn't expecting to see MJ attending or performing or anything. I was satisfied with the promised tribute.
But then NOTHING?? Like... nothing?!?! :realmad:

Ok, we got 2 seconds of Beat it. Was that the tribute?? :rolleyes:

better not have been I stayed up exhausted and that's it?? I hate the Grammy's, that was the first and last time I ever watch it unless we KNOW MJ will be there!!!!

ennazus
11th February 2008, 05:12 AM
it was all for ratings! they wanted higher ratings so they screw us over!!!
That's what I thought as well. Using that can attract A HUGE AMOUNT of MJ fans to watch the show. I mean, this is the 50th anniversary, the ratings gotta be high.

Exactly!
I wasn't expecting to see MJ attending or performing or anything. I was satisfied with the promised tribute.
But then NOTHING?? Like... nothing?!?! :realmad:

Ok, we got 2 seconds of Beat it. Was that the tribute?? :rolleyes:
A tribute without mentioning the artist's name? Some tribute, that is.

I am mentioning in my letter that many dedicated Mj fans stayed up late to catch the telecast for the tribute that did not happen. :rant:
Yup, I mentioned that in my email as well! And woke up early too!

Starchild
11th February 2008, 05:14 AM
you wake up early and I don't go to bed....aren't we a pair to be reconed with, eh? time to shoot the Grammy's!

Marni
11th February 2008, 05:14 AM
Ok I wrote a nice but firm letter to them. I will post some excerpts:

To whom it may concern.


Many dedicated fans around the world went to lengths to stay up all night or get up very early to watch your telecast to see the Michael Jackson all star tribute that was advertised. They watched the whole show, start to finish, giving regular updates for those around the world who couldn’t watch.

They did not expect Mr. Jackson to be there, but they DID expect the Jackson all star tribute, because it was advertised. There was no announcement or correction to say it wouldn’t happen, so fans expected right up until the very last minute that it would.

My question and complaint is why didn’t the Jackson tribute happen? To advertise something as big as this and then not show it is a huge let down, especially from a trusted organisation such as the Grammy awards. This is a massive disappointment to millions of viewers and fans around the world. Could you possibly explain what happened to the tribute and why it didn’t occur?

Starchild
11th February 2008, 05:16 AM
sounds too polite...just tell them off!

ennazus
11th February 2008, 05:19 AM
Mine was a little informal. I can't really form any coherent English sentence with a headache while being upset about the missing tribute. LOL!

o: Whom It May Concern

Dear Sir/Madam,

I have seen your commercial online, advertising an all star tribute to Michael Jackson, and was looking forward to it. As I don't live in the US, I need to wake up early to watch your live show. I watched the show from the start till the end and realised that there wasn't a tribute at all.

I'm very upset and disappointed as I did not expect a reputable award show, especially on the 50th anniversary, would advertise a performance, yet it was not delivered. Many Michael Jackson fans are not very happy about it as many of us stayed up late or woke up early just for the tribute.

I hope there is an explanation on why the tribute was removed. Hope to hear from you soon. Thank you.

- Suzanne Leung

Marni
11th February 2008, 05:19 AM
I did say a few other things, but I didn't want to post them publicly lol. I was firm. :yes:

Starchild
11th February 2008, 05:21 AM
goody! I got to crash, now that my great disapointment is over.....I been up for almost 24 hours, so take care guys! TTYL at a better hour!

ennazus
11th February 2008, 05:22 AM
I will get over my disappointment with a bunch of MJ videos with ice cream! LOL!

But what a disappointing ending. =.=

Marni
11th February 2008, 05:25 AM
Mine was a little informal. I can't really form any coherent English sentence with a headache while being upset about the missing tribute. LOL!

Awesome letter! :yes:
goody! I got to crash, now that my great disapointment is over.....I been up for almost 24 hours, so take care guys! TTYL at a better hour!

I will get over my disappointment with a bunch of MJ videos with ice cream! LOL!

But what a disappointing ending. =.=

Thank you to both (and all of you) for staying with us and chatting- you guys are awesome. I hope y'all have a great nights / mornings sleep. :huggle:

How disappointing!

I can see Raymone getting a few letters too! :whistle:

brasileira1989
11th February 2008, 05:27 AM
I heard Kanye mentioned MJ.

Does anyone know what he said, because I missed it.

ennazus
11th February 2008, 05:27 AM
Raymone will be bombarded with emails in her inbox. Poor lady! :laughing:

tinker*bell
11th February 2008, 05:28 AM
Mine was a little informal. I can't really form any coherent English sentence with a headache while being upset about the missing tribute. LOL!

Hey, your name is Suzanne?? NOW I got your username!!! :laughing:

Sorry, that was off-topic! :unsure:

;)

damien
11th February 2008, 05:29 AM
Raymone will be bombarded with emails in her inbox. Poor lady! :laughing:

i emailed her. not angry. giving her an opportunity to respond.

tinker*bell
11th February 2008, 05:31 AM
I heard Kanye mentioned MJ.

Does anyone know what he said, because I missed it.

He said "Michael Jackson" in his songs... I didn't quite get the whole lyrics, though.
But he was just singing and he said the name. That was it.

ennazus
11th February 2008, 05:32 AM
Hey, your name is Suzanne?? NOW I got your username!!! :laughing:

Sorry, that was off-topic! :unsure:

;)

:laughing: Yeah.

The only two moments MJ related in Grammys today is the mention of MJ in Kanye West's song and a 2 second snippet of Beat It during Will.i.Am performance!

Marni
11th February 2008, 06:04 AM
:laughing: Yeah.

The only two moments MJ related in Grammys today is the mention of MJ in Kanye West's song and a 2 second snippet of Beat It during Will.i.Am performance!

What a tease!! :realmad:

x0xMichael/Jacksonx0x
11th February 2008, 06:09 AM
Yeah, I think i've said on MJJB that this was just an opportunity to either bring MJ to the awards or to embarrass him, someway.

This business is just messed, sometimes. MJ is used to it. It's not fair to him or to us that they are allowed to use his name for whatever reasons. :/

Really, really pathetic. :/

Jessy
11th February 2008, 06:12 AM
... surprise, surprise.

ennazus
11th February 2008, 06:20 AM
I was on the first page of this thread and this caught my eye.

Ehrlich said he'd do the tribute only if Jackson sang and danced, say insiders. "Michael can't go along with that," says a source. "He needs more time to rehearse new versions of the songs. And everything requires new choreography." So I guess, No MJ in Grammys, bye bye tribute! (:

tinker*bell
11th February 2008, 06:23 AM
I was on the first page of this thread and this caught my eye.

So I guess, No MJ in Grammys, bye bye tribute! (:

The thing is we all knew MJ wasn't gonna be there.
But the tribute wasn't an MJ performance to tribute himself. It was an All Star Tribute thing, meaning it doesn't necessarily means MJ has to be there. ;)

Jessy
11th February 2008, 06:27 AM
Yes but that also didn't happen. There was no all-star tribute. It was all a load of horsesh...

ennazus
11th February 2008, 06:27 AM
The thing is we all knew MJ wasn't gonna be there.
But the tribute wasn't an MJ performance to tribute himself. It was an All Star Tribute thing, meaning it doesn't necessarily means MJ has to be there. ;)

Exactly.

I guess they thought with the tribute and advertisements will coax MJ to their ceremony - which is also Lindsay's point.

But apparently, even with this promotion, MJ is still not attending it, so I guess they cancelled it later.

Weird thing is, where is the tribute for the Beatles? I don't remember watching it. =.=

tinker*bell
11th February 2008, 06:35 AM
I understand your point. ;)
I just think the fact MJ wasn't attending shouldn't have anything to do with the Tribute they promised. They should have kept it anyways... It wasn't fair.

And what also wasn't fair was the lack of MJ mentioning. If they didn't want to do the tribute thingy, fine. They shouldn't have advertised, but ok. Fine.
But to completely ignore MJ throughout the entire show... It wasn't right! :rolleyes:

I mean, this was the 50th Grammys. It was all about the previous and legendary winners. They've paid respects to a lot of people. But they didn't mention MJ at all! And he does hold a few records from their own Awards!! He was and still is one of the most important artists of this industry...

Jessy
11th February 2008, 07:05 AM
I dunno if anyones noticed, but MJ has been snubbed by the media in general since the trial ended. Probably because they got rolled so bad when they were all so sure MJ was going to jail and gasp, shock! he actually turned out to be innocent so everyone scattered away from any kind of Michael Jackson story that isn't just a mere mention to save their own face.

Their diffident attitude to MJ is probably worse than a negative one.

Marni
11th February 2008, 07:44 AM
New news:

http://thecelebritytruth.com/no-michael-jackson-performance-at-grammys/00924

No Michael Jackson Performance At Grammys


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Reports that Michael Jackson will stage a comeback at this weekend's Grammy Awards are apparently incorrect, with the the Executive Producer of the show dismissing the rumors as speculation.
With the 25th anniversary of Jackson's legendary album 'Thriller' falling this weekend, pundits were anticipating a performance from the King of Pop to relaunch his career leading up to an album of new material later this year.
However, Executive Producer of the Grammy Awards, Ken Ehrlich, has denied the reports, telling TV's 'Extra' that Jackson will not be taking the stage this Sunday night at the Staples Center in Los Angeles.

That was the original thing said by the producer.

The thing is we all knew MJ wasn't gonna be there.
But the tribute wasn't an MJ performance to tribute himself. It was an All Star Tribute thing, meaning it doesn't necessarily means MJ has to be there. ;)

Yes, we did know that MJ wasn't gonna be there, but there was nothing to indicate the tribute wasn't going to go ahead.



I understand your point. ;)
I just think the fact MJ wasn't attending shouldn't have anything to do with the Tribute they promised. They should have kept it anyways... It wasn't fair.

And what also wasn't fair was the lack of MJ mentioning. If they didn't want to do the tribute thingy, fine. They shouldn't have advertised, but ok. Fine.
But to completely ignore MJ throughout the entire show... It wasn't right! :rolleyes:

I mean, this was the 50th Grammys. It was all about the previous and legendary winners. They've paid respects to a lot of people. But they didn't mention MJ at all! And he does hold a few records from their own Awards!! He was and still is one of the most important artists of this industry...

Yeah exactly. :yes:

This whole thing is so stupid and with the amount of Jackson fans emailing them now, they will be sorry they ever advertised a tribute that didn't happen. :lol:

Moonwalker3000
11th February 2008, 08:20 AM
Unbelievable..! :sad:

Tony R
11th February 2008, 08:27 AM
Yeah, I think i've said on MJJB that this was just an opportunity to either bring MJ to the awards or to embarrass him, someway.

This business is just messed, sometimes. MJ is used to it. It's not fair to him or to us that they are allowed to use his name for whatever reasons. :/

Really, really pathetic. :/

A lot of paranoia here. This was nothing against Michael. Sony & probably Michael himself are happy to keep the rumours of a performance going as it keeps interest in the album (and the Grammys show) up.

I dunno if anyones noticed, but MJ has been snubbed by the media in general since the trial ended. Probably because they got rolled so bad when they were all so sure MJ was going to jail and gasp, shock! he actually turned out to be innocent so everyone scattered away from any kind of Michael Jackson story that isn't just a mere mention to save their own face.

Their diffident attitude to MJ is probably worse than a negative one.

Mermaid, I disagree with you on this one. Michael is still all over the news but the interest has waned as he has purposely kept a low profile (and rightly so). The media can't win, if they print a pic of him & his kids, we call it invasive - if they don't cover him, we call it a snub!

Unbelievable..! :sad:

I think I'd have been more surprised if something would have happened.

Marni
11th February 2008, 08:31 AM
But tony, blatantly promoting a tribute and then not having it is a bit much- even if we didn't expect him to be there, we expected the tribute.

ennazus
11th February 2008, 08:39 AM
I think is not the media. For me, it seems as though the award shows are snubbin him. They don't give him the recognition he deserved.

No one expected a Michael Jackson performance, but instead, a Michael Jackson tribute by other artistes. To advertise a tribute performance that didn't happen?

Just simply ridiculous.

Tony R
11th February 2008, 08:55 AM
But tony, blatantly promoting a tribute and then not having it is a bit much- even if we didn't expect him to be there, we expected the tribute.

Oh I agree with that. I'm just saying I don't think it's a plan against Michael.

As for him not recieving awards recently. He hasn't released an album for 7 years! And he's already receieved every other award going.

ennazus
11th February 2008, 09:11 AM
^ I should have made myself clear, recognition as in the awards he achieved in the past.

In the Grammys itself, today, many well known artistes tt achieved the life-time achievement awards were mentioned. Funny, MJ wasn't mentioned at all.

I don't know if it was intentional or what, but the least they could do is to recognize his achievements as well.

But I'm not very bothered about it actually. =.= I'm more bothered about the missing tribute! :laughing:

Tony R
11th February 2008, 09:19 AM
^ I should have made myself clear, recognition as in the awards he achieved in the past.

In the Grammys itself, today, many well known artistes tt achieved the life-time achievement awards were mentioned. Funny, MJ wasn't mentioned at all.

I don't know if it was intentional or what, but the least they could do is to recognize his achievements as well.

But I'm not very bothered about it actually. =.= I'm more bothered about the missing tribute! :laughing:


I see! Sorry. I haven't seen the show. Did they mention all big winners, Santana, U2, Sting etc or was it an obvious ommision for MJ?

Anyhow, I reckon we have a lot to look forward to this year so I suppose we shouldn't get too hung up about this. If we hadn't got ourselves so excited we wouldn't have been let down as much!!!

Holly
11th February 2008, 09:38 AM
I didn't expect him to go. I dont think it is the right timing either, to early after the release of T25!

ennazus
11th February 2008, 09:42 AM
I can't remember who they mention cos I was quite distracted at that point of time. Hahahaha!

But yeah, I agreed what you said. We just got too excited, so the let down was quite big. Oh well, by tomorrow, most of us will get over it and start getting excited about other things! Hahaha!

Holly
11th February 2008, 09:46 AM
Yes! there is plently to be excited about in MJ world now =D

Marni
11th February 2008, 09:54 AM
I can't remember who they mention cos I was quite distracted at that point of time. Hahahaha!

But yeah, I agreed what you said. We just got too excited, so the let down was quite big. Oh well, by tomorrow, most of us will get over it and start getting excited about other things! Hahaha!

I agree. :yes:

It is a let down, but there is a lot to look forward to and still plenty of opportunity. Hopefully the AMA's will do something for him. :lol:

ennazus
11th February 2008, 10:02 AM
^ Yeah, I hope he'll do something there.

MJ seems to have a good relationship with Dick Clark! (:
I mean, they know each other for a long time after all!

The_Glove
11th February 2008, 10:15 AM
lol, i'm glad i didn't get up at 4am now.

ennazus
11th February 2008, 10:30 AM
^ LOL! Lucky for you!

*Hppydyswlldrwnthpn*
11th February 2008, 11:16 AM
What a ball ache.
I am also glad i didnt stay up.
Pft.

damien
11th February 2008, 11:17 AM
I agree. :yes:

It is a let down, but there is a lot to look forward to and still plenty of opportunity. Hopefully the AMA's will do something for him. :lol:

When are AMA's?

Marni
11th February 2008, 11:26 AM
When are AMA's?


I actually thought they were before the Grammy's (now that I think of it), but I honestly can't find info on this year's ceremony :unsure:

Luluvine
11th February 2008, 11:29 AM
BIG disappointment... False advertising... No Michael anything. What a way to trick the fans to get their ratings. This is the sickest thing they have ever done. But unfortunitly I will get over it. There is a whole year to come and I know for a fact Michael will be part of it. :)

Marni
11th February 2008, 11:41 AM
BIG disappointment... False advertising... No Michael anything. What a way to trick the fans to get their ratings. This is the sickest thing they have ever done. But unfortunitly I will get over it. There is a whole year to come and I know for a fact Michael will be part of it. :)

I understand your pain Lulu... Have you emailed the Grammy's yet? MusiCares@grammy.com Write them a nice note. :wink:

Yes, it is a big year and plenty to look forward to. :yes:

PS. The media barely picked it up; here's the only bit of "news" I found:

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/music/la-et-oddities11feb11,1,2095168.story?ctrack=2&cset=true

Reptile rock: Grammy officials' attempts to mount a 25th-anniversary salute to Michael Jackson's "Thriller" fizzled, but the milestone didn't go unacknowledged. During a commercial, Geico tapped the title track as the soundtrack for a phalanx of moonwalking geckos. Relatively understated by Jackson standards.

ennazus
11th February 2008, 11:47 AM
I actually thought they were before the Grammy's (now that I think of it), but I honestly can't find info on this year's ceremony :unsure:

2007 ceremony was held in November, so I guess AMA's are held end of every year. I guess, in the near future, there will be more information of the ceremony! :wink:

Lady_MJJ
11th February 2008, 12:40 PM
:mellow::mellow::mellow:

......

I can't believe it, seriously :sad: Now that I haven't spent the whole night watching and waiting for something to happen, I feel totally angry, let alone some of you, guys, who stayed and watched ... for nothing! Damn it!

shannel
11th February 2008, 01:10 PM
Good for me. I didn't stay up late to watch it.I have the feeling that Michael will not be there at the ceremony. But i got disappointed by hearing from you that the tribute did not happen???? Oh no. what the heck? Even Michael won't be there they should have done the tribute. I hate Grammy people. whoever they are, they will receive a very nice message from me. i will go now to send email to them.

Marni
11th February 2008, 01:14 PM
Good for me. I didn't stay up late to watch it.I have the feeling that Michael will not be there at the ceremony. But i got disappointed by hearing from you that the tribute did not happen???? Oh no. what the heck? Even Michael won't be there they should have done the tribute. I hate Grammy people. whoever they are, they will receive a very nice message from me. i will go now to send email to them.

Exactly. Michael was not going to show up anyway- that we already knew. But the tribute should have happened, like they advertised. :no1:

pepsi
11th February 2008, 04:24 PM
whaaat?!! So all these Rumours were just completely false!! i can't beleive this.... not even a tribute, all this build up for nothing eh.... well michael doesn't need the Grammy's to promote anything he does that himslef.

mikeheartstrong
11th February 2008, 05:11 PM
As fans, we should never lose hope of seeing MJ live. Sure the Grammys came and went but I didn't expect we could expect that much. We heard rumours and we saw wshat happened, big deal! The Grammys celebrated 50 years and it was theirs to celebrate. Besides, MJ was represented somehow during the cewremony besides the Pepsicos ad.
:cool: Let's keep cool about the whole thing.

Marni
12th February 2008, 01:39 AM
whaaat?!! So all these Rumours were just completely false!! i can't beleive this.... not even a tribute, all this build up for nothing eh.... well michael doesn't need the Grammy's to promote anything he does that himslef.

The tribute wasn't a rumour- that came directly from The Grammys and that's what makes this so upsetting.

-------------------------------

Interesting article about Grammys ratings:



http://goldderby.latimes.com/awards_goldderby/2008/02/low-tv-ratings.html

The 50th annual Grammys pulled in just 17.5 million viewers, winning the night for CBS against a lineup of mostly repeats. That paltry figure (off from 20 million last year) puts the golden anniversary show in second to last place among Grammycasts, just ahead of the 2006 show that drew only 17 million. However, with only a 6.6 rating/16 share for adults 18-49, this year's kudos was the lowest scoring ever with that desirable demographic.

Aside from 1984, when viewership spiked to 50 million-plus in the wake of Michael Jackson's "Thriller" of a year, the trend has been ever downward. While there has been an occasional blip, like last year, audiences are tuning out as record sales are turning down.

mikeheartstrong
12th February 2008, 05:36 PM
You have a point there Marni.

ennazus
12th February 2008, 05:54 PM
http://goldderby.latimes.com/awards_goldderby/2008/02/low-tv-ratings.html

The 50th annual Grammys pulled in just 17.5 million viewers, winning the night for CBS against a lineup of mostly repeats. That paltry figure (off from 20 million last year) puts the golden anniversary show in second to last place among Grammycasts, just ahead of the 2006 show that drew only 17 million. However, with only a 6.6 rating/16 share for adults 18-49, this year's kudos was the lowest scoring ever with that desirable demographic.

Aside from 1984, when viewership spiked to 50 million-plus in the wake of Michael Jackson's "Thriller" of a year, the trend has been ever downward. While there has been an occasional blip, like last year, audiences are tuning out as record sales are turning down.

Very interesting, indeed. :hmm:

sammichael
12th February 2008, 08:03 PM
Look, no-one knows why nothing happened :no1: even though the grammys would of been MJs kingdom for the night :yes: :yes: but at least were getting more music from him and everything is good and well :wink:

ALyssa Fuller
18th February 2008, 01:37 AM
I watched the Grammy's sometime last week and I didn't see him... or anything that even RELATED to him actually.... :sad: but IDK...

he might show up sometime later.:hmm:

I'm so exited to ge my copy of Thriller 25 though!!:wild:

stilloffthewall
9th March 2008, 10:09 PM
He WAS on the rundown sheets up until 3 days before the show.

Joel Jackson
9th March 2008, 10:11 PM
He WAS on the rundown sheets up until 3 days before the show.

Really? I didn't think there was ever any official confirmation other than that of the tribute.

stilloffthewall
9th March 2008, 10:58 PM
that's why it was going to be a surprise :) Trust me. He was expected to perform. Some of us were briefed on it. I'd have to look for the sheet but from what I recall, the third performer listed with will.i.am and Fergie was listed as TBA. :)

Moonwalker3000
9th March 2008, 11:14 PM
that's why it was going to be a surprise :) Trust me. He was expected to perform. Some of us were briefed on it. I'd have to look for the sheet but from what I recall, the third performer listed with will.i.am and Fergie was listed as TBA. :)

Thank you very much for clearing things up. We love to hear things such as these, especially when we do not get official word from anyone. :)

Marni
9th March 2008, 11:19 PM
He WAS on the rundown sheets up until 3 days before the show.

Really? I didn't think there was ever any official confirmation other than that of the tribute.

That's true- wasn't it a week before the show that the Grammy's officially confirmed Michael would NOT be there? :huh:

that's why it was going to be a surprise :) Trust me. He was expected to perform. Some of us were briefed on it. I'd have to look for the sheet but from what I recall, the third performer listed with will.i.am and Fergie was listed as TBA. :)

It would be great if you could show us. :yes:

stilloffthewall
10th March 2008, 12:16 AM
I don't think the production company or NARAS would take to kindly of the schedule being posted online. And, I certainly don't want to dispute the 'official' word from the Grammys. :)

Marni
10th March 2008, 12:44 AM
Are you from the production company? :)

That's ok, we will take your word for it. :yes: The whole situation was just soooo confusing and I can't even imagine how many emails the grammy's got from fans for pulling the tribute!

stilloffthewall
10th March 2008, 01:14 AM
Thanks, Marni.

Yes, I work for the production company. Those of us working the event were very much disappointed as well. But, we weren't as surprised this time around. LOL

Joel Jackson
10th March 2008, 02:25 AM
that's why it was going to be a surprise :) Trust me. He was expected to perform. Some of us were briefed on it. I'd have to look for the sheet but from what I recall, the third performer listed with will.i.am and Fergie was listed as TBA. :)

Thanks for the info dude :cool: Even though Michael didn't perform its nice to know that things are happening and opportunities are there. For me, I think its a good move for Michael not to perform until he hits with new material..It'll have more of an impact im sure :)

smooth-c
10th March 2008, 02:31 AM
I'm sure michael knows what he is doing, he has always done the best and i'm sure we have something to look forward to.

Long time coming, but something WILL come.

stilloffthewall
10th March 2008, 04:20 AM
I look forward to the new material, as well.

BTW, I love the site. Hopefully, I can check back in soon. Everyone have a wonderful week.

Marni
10th March 2008, 01:03 PM
I look forward to the new material, as well.

BTW, I love the site. Hopefully, I can check back in soon. Everyone have a wonderful week.

Thanks for the compliment, and for all the info- you've been very helpful! :yes: