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KB50MJ
20th January 2009, 03:18 AM
In a new interview published by CTVglobemedia, it was confirmed that T-Pain worked with Michael Jackson on three different music tracks. On the experience, T-Pain stated: "It was weird when I first saw him because, you know, he's Michael Jackson! And then, after he started talking, he was like a regular cool guy." In October of 2008, T-Pain announced that he had finished two tracks with Michael Jackson, which indicates that the third track may have been recorded between November 2008 and now. Back in 2008, T-Pain announced: "I did two pieces with Michael Jackson, so I'm pretty much done; my list is all checked off... I just worked on [Michael Jackson's] new album. He actually invited me to his house. So I went to his house and it was pretty much that day where we just hung out. I never thought Michael Jackson would ever work with me. He actually sent for me, so that was kind of weird and cool at the same time." Whether or not any of these collaborations will appear on Michael Jackson's forthcoming album is unknown at this time--the same holds true for all collaborations that Michael Jackson has done since 2005.

Source: MJJR.net / CTVglobemedia / Boombox Music Blog

http://mjjr.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=511&t=941

Michaelfan99
20th January 2009, 03:25 AM
As long as Michael don't come back sounding like t-pain then it is alright with me! :laughing:

EssenceOfMagic
20th January 2009, 03:27 AM
TPain should consider himself verrrrrrrry lucky,

Geez Mike, out of all the people you could work with.. :whatever:

trueiopian
20th January 2009, 03:32 AM
****!

:nuuh:

Jarissy
20th January 2009, 03:36 AM
Gosh. T-Pain? Get Real Mike.

Ankost
20th January 2009, 03:59 AM
Geez Mike, out of all the people you could work with.. :whatever:
Me, me!!!:drool:

suga10
20th January 2009, 04:01 AM
Akon is wishing he is T-Pain right now:rofl:

Thriller
20th January 2009, 04:07 AM
i listen to t pain alot, him and mj should be very interesting to listen to.

trueiopian
20th January 2009, 04:10 AM
^ In a good way?

troubleman84
20th January 2009, 04:27 AM
If y'all members of the KOPD, go to the non-MJ music discussion board, there's a link for a CD called "THE DEATH OF AUTOTUNE". Click on the link and listen to some of the songs, it's funny as hell. I just hope BOTH of them sing without it, lol.

Then again, we don't even know if they're gonna make it on the album. Remember all that stuff he was supposedly doing with Lenny Kravitz, Sisqo, Puffy and 'em on "INVINCIBLE"? :laughing:

suga10
20th January 2009, 04:29 AM
He experiments, and then listens to all the songs he's made over and over again, and then probably picks out the ones which stick out to him the most, and voila= a new album

troubleman84
20th January 2009, 04:31 AM
^ That's basically how he does what he does. I remembered the fuss about Prince, Roger Troutman and Run-DMC all being on BAD and in the end all three were not included (Prince didn't do that duet, Roger's track and Run-DMC's were cut out, by Quincy I believe). In DANGEROUS, of course, there was talk of a duet with Madonna (IN THE CLOSET). Michael's initial plan to work with R. Kelly was to include the song "Life" on it, but R. Kelly preferred "You Are Not Alone" because he felt the song fitted MJ's style better. "Life" ended up going to K-Ci and JoJo. MJ was gonna do "Joy" on DANGEROUS and gave the song up at the last minute to BLACKstreet for his producer Teddy Riley's group.

suga10
20th January 2009, 04:37 AM
I bet Neyo's songs will make the album, considering MJ said in the Ebony Interview how impressed he was with Ne-yo understanding of writing and composing. Ne-yo also said MJ sang to him one of his songs :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2jMUhzxXTk

troubleman84
20th January 2009, 04:41 AM
^ Yeah, and maybe one or two Akon tracks. :laughing:

suga10
20th January 2009, 04:42 AM
LOL imagine if he approached Chris Brown :lol:

trueiopian
20th January 2009, 04:42 AM
Troubleman84-Thanks for the info :D
LOL! Have you seen the interview Chris Rock did with Prince about Bad?? BTW- I wonder how MJ would sound singing Life. That song is awesome!

Marni
20th January 2009, 04:43 AM
Surely even if T-Pain recorded 3 songs with MJ, he would have to know that only 1 out of 3 (if that) would make the album. When you think about it, MJ's way of doing things is very expensive- doing all that experimenting, recording 2,3,4 tracks with each artist (didn't will.i.am say there were 2 he finished with MJ for a new album? And Ne-yo's mentioned multiple songs too), recording 50 of his own and then only selecting 10-16 tracks :lol:

Soooo many people blabbed about doing songs for Invincible and hardly any made the cut. I hope this is the case with Akon and T-Pain :lmao:

Timmy, Q says in his book that MJ was the one who was skeptical about using rap on a pop track after the track he did with Run DMC for Bad. I'd LOVE to hear it. :lol:

suga10
20th January 2009, 04:48 AM
LOL nothin against T-Pain, but yeah Akon been pretty vocal so far. I liked Hold my Hand though :)

troubleman84
20th January 2009, 05:15 AM
Surely even if T-Pain recorded 3 songs with MJ, he would have to know that only 1 out of 3 (if that) would make the album. When you think about it, MJ's way of doing things is very expensive- doing all that experimenting, recording 2,3,4 tracks with each artist (didn't will.i.am say there were 2 he finished with MJ for a new album? And Ne-yo's mentioned multiple songs too), recording 50 of his own and then only selecting 10-16 tracks :lol:

Soooo many people blabbed about doing songs for Invincible and hardly any made the cut. I hope this is the case with Akon and T-Pain :lmao:

Timmy, Q says in his book that MJ was the one who was skeptical about using rap on a pop track after the track he did with Run DMC for Bad. I'd LOVE to hear it. :lol:

AH! I see. :yes: I often forgot Quincy did put rappers in the BACK IN THE BLACK album. I think they often called that album "a journey from bebop to hip-hop". :yes:

KB50MJ
20th January 2009, 06:50 AM
Here are T-Pains succsess with collaborations:

Two #1 singles

seven Top Ten hits

Eleven top 20 hits

and

Forteen top 40 hits

So if the track ends up on the album, it MIGHT be succsessful. But I really don't want T-Pain or Akon on MJ's new album. I'd rather have Ne-Yo and thats it, the rest is all Mike. Its not good to have too many collaborations on an album, it ruins the whole album for me.

*Butterfly*
20th January 2009, 06:54 AM
I bet Neyo's songs will make the album, considering MJ said in the Ebony Interview how impressed he was with Ne-yo understanding of writing and composing. Ne-yo also said MJ sang to him one of his songs :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2jMUhzxXTk

Ne-yo is awesome!:)

lilsusie
20th January 2009, 07:17 AM
OHHH NOO but hold on..
Even though T pain sucks, their collaboration might be good. look, Akon's music is nice but Hold my hand is mediocre to the max. It's hard to tell.

Heidi
20th January 2009, 07:55 AM
Cooooooooooooool

kriminal
20th January 2009, 11:12 AM
just imagine after all this time MJ releases a collabarations album all the tracks he's had stowed away would be awsome for the fans!

Pompous Git
20th January 2009, 11:40 AM
Rule of thumb is when people start talking about how much they worked with MJ and all that stuff...they don't appear on the album. George Michael was supposed to do a duet with MJ for BAD, but was axed after he talked about it - surprise factor was gone. GM did say this back in the day.

I would expect T-Pain and all these modern hippy hoppers to be left off the record. There's limited space on the record and I think fans have forgotten that Michael will have been working on his own stuff...as well as that he's been on the end of the phone with people which means less chance of appearing on the record.

Man, if T-Pain said Neverland...we'd know he was talking rubbish! :lmao:

Mulleno
20th January 2009, 12:09 PM
I really hope this doesn't turn out to be like Invincible; too many people working on one song so it ends up sounding like a mess.

EssenceOfMagic
20th January 2009, 12:14 PM
Even if they are left off, why does Michael work with them in the first place? I wish he looked outside popular music to find superior artists.

Pompous Git
20th January 2009, 12:52 PM
^^^Simple - to see if the end result actually works for him. :yes: You don't know until you give it a go.

Mximee
20th January 2009, 02:03 PM
Ok ..
I have to say I don't always like T-pain's style.
But I liked Kiss Kiss from Chris Brown so I hope he made some great songs!

Edit: I have to say that I agree with mulleno,
Invincible wasn't his best album (in my opinion) because of the many collaborations.
I hope MJ made better decisions choosing these artists.
I actually like some songs of Akon, and also of T-Pain, but not always.
I hope he'll write more songs by himself, because they're just the best.

roxxie
20th January 2009, 07:54 PM
^^ me 2...i wish he would do more songs on his own because all he's seemed to been doing recently is collaborating with other artists.

Mulleno
20th January 2009, 07:58 PM
I read in one thread recently someone mentioning about MJ potentially losing his self confidence. Maybe this is another thing that hints at that. Lip syncing his songs and wanting to collaborate with other artists. Just a thought.

I'm sure the potential collaporations are just to keep plenty of song options open for him. I'm pretty sure that's been the process for a lot of his albums, to write a load of songs and pick them out.

xHumanNaturex
20th January 2009, 08:19 PM
I really hope this doesn't turn out to be like Invincible; too many people working on one song so it ends up sounding like a mess.

Hmm but I still don't see why people thought Invincible flopped? Maybe it was because it was very updated music? I mean someone tell me why people condemned it.
I think he should have gotten more promotion. More music videos and stuff like that. Unbreakable and Heaven Can Wait could have been good for music videos.

Soo T-Pain and Michael? I get the feeling Michael really wants to be all modern and collaborate with todays known artists.
Well what I think is that older fans won't like it so much because they'd feel Michael is trying to 'modernize' himself too much.
But the kids of today are gonna love it because its their type of music. I'm one of the younger generations and personally, I like music as long as it sounds good.

roxxie
20th January 2009, 08:44 PM
but i buy a michael jackson album to listen to michael jackson not akon,t-pain ect.

Pompous Git
21st January 2009, 12:44 AM
^^ me 2...i wish he would do more songs on his own because all he's seemed to been doing recently is collaborating with other artists.

All we ever heard about with Bad and Dangerous was nothing but collaborations with legions of people from RUN DMC to George Michael. 99% never made the cut.

We never hear about MJ working on his own, but he will have worked on his own.

lilsusie
21st January 2009, 04:01 AM
Invincible wouldn't have flopped (by Michael Jackson's standard) if MJ's face wasnt weird looking at that time.

KB50MJ
21st January 2009, 04:18 AM
Invincible wouldn't have flopped (by Michael Jackson's standard) if MJ's face wasnt weird looking at that time.

Thats not the reason why it didn't sell as much as people expected. He looked like that since Dangerous, his hair style just changed.

And Invincible didn't flop, 12 million sold is not a flop at all.

lilsusie
21st January 2009, 04:55 AM
Thats not the reason why it didn't sell as much as people expected. He looked like that since Dangerous, his hair style just changed.

And Invincible didn't flop, 12 million sold is not a flop at all.

His top lip wasn't able to move in 2001 and his face looked nothing like he did in History and Dangerous era. You must be in denial if you think he looked the same since Dangerous.

KB50MJ
21st January 2009, 04:59 AM
His top lip wasn't able to move in 2001 and his face looked nothing like he did in History and Dangerous era. You must be in denial if you think he looked the same since Dangerous.

Who knows and who cares. It has nothing to do with sales.

Marni
21st January 2009, 05:01 AM
Saying album sales have something to do with looks is a matter of opinion, but if you look at evidence, I doubt that's true. After all, Billy Ray Cyrus sold uber amounts of "Achey Breakey Heart" and he had a mullet! :eek:

It doesn't matter though- this discussion is about T-pain / MJ collab. Please refer to one of our many discussions on Invincible if you guys wish to discuss that album. Thanks :)

lilsusie
21st January 2009, 05:14 AM
Who knows and who cares. It has nothing to do with sales.
it sure has. He used to have many fans who bought his album because they love him for his look. These are the fans who will lost interest in him because he doesnt look good like he used to.

drewhiggins
21st January 2009, 07:39 AM
OK, I'm gonna go off-topic a little (sorry!), but for good reason.


Why should a person's face, no matter how bad it may be, affect album sales? Blood On The Dance Floor is the world's best-selling remix album, the number of tickets to the MSG show and the number of viewers on that special show nothing of bad looks. As long as the music is good (which on Invincible 70% is), to get that amount of decent music on a record after 2000 (or even the late 90s) is a great achievement, especially on 16 songs.

He certainly doesn't look the same as in 1991, no. But not overly terrible - there's worse out there with singers and actors even today. People don't look the same as they did ten years ago, which is also understandable.

If people choose looks over sounds (which you don't see the person in a music file) then there's the problem.

Anyway, a couple of collaborations is cool. But the first three songs??? A lot of people haven't even heard of Invincible or the other 15 songs (excluding You Rock My World). They honestly thought HIStory was his last album and the last tour. I haven't actually heard of this T-Pain guy before, so maybe it will be interesting to see Mike go with him.

Marni
21st January 2009, 07:47 AM
Here's some T-Pain for those who don't know him:
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=ichSb-1HSiY

I didn't realise how young he was. :ohmy:

Auto-tune heaven (or hell rather) :laughing:

Mysteriousone
21st January 2009, 09:51 AM
it sure has. He used to have many fans who bought his album because they love him for his look. These are the fans who will lost interest in him because he doesnt look good like he used to.

Well those fans you're speaking of are lame!! Very very immature to say the least too! Sounds like they're silly little school girls who have a lot of growing up to do! People age, yes, people do age and Michael Jackson is no exception! :no2:

Mysti!

lilsusie
21st January 2009, 12:09 PM
Well those fans you're speaking of are lame!! Very very immature to say the least too! Sounds like they're silly little school girls who have a lot of growing up to do! People age, yes, people do age and Michael Jackson is no exception! :no2:

Mysti!

Then there are many lame fans. Don't forget little school girls are the group of audiences which makes most stars successful!

xHumanNaturex
21st January 2009, 12:51 PM
it sure has. He used to have many fans who bought his album because they love him for his look. These are the fans who will lost interest in him because he doesnt look good like he used to.

Who cares though? Hes still Michael Jackson.

Pompous Git
21st January 2009, 01:08 PM
Then there are many lame fans. Don't forget little school girls are the group of audiences which makes most stars successful!

A minority amongst the wider community who appreciate individual talents.

Amazes me how some people still cannot see past Western cultural hang ups on appearances. :blink:

Invincible's sales was not down to how MJ looked - I know better than most with all the info I've got.

snowhite
21st January 2009, 05:06 PM
first akon, now t-pain...seriously out of all the musicians out there :nuuh:

troubleman84
21st January 2009, 05:27 PM
Some people forget Michael Jackson is 50 years old now, he's not gonna attract the same audience he attracted at 30, unless they were MJ fans themselves.

Mulleno
21st January 2009, 08:05 PM
Some people forget Michael Jackson is 50 years old now, he's not gonna attract the same audience he attracted at 30, unless they were MJ fans themselves.

Madonna's 50..

troubleman84
21st January 2009, 08:17 PM
^^ Well that's what I'm saying tho... I'm sure like Madonna, MJ can squeeze one top ten pop hit with a featured artist, other than that, not much will be similar. Hell we don't even know what he's gonna put on the album.

KB50MJ
21st January 2009, 09:04 PM
^^ Well that's what I'm saying tho... I'm sure like Madonna, MJ can squeeze one top ten pop hit with a featured artist, other than that, not much will be similar. Hell we don't even know what he's gonna put on the album.

MJ can get a top 10 hit on his own. I mean he did it with you Rock my world, with almost no promotion.

He can definantly get a top ten hit, maybe a #1.

Because people Love MJ of all ages. He appeals to everyone. So I think he can.

troubleman84
21st January 2009, 09:12 PM
^^ No one's saying he won't, lol.

KB50MJ
21st January 2009, 09:23 PM
^^ No one's saying he won't, lol.

Oh, nevermind then.

DJ Gringo
22nd January 2009, 01:46 AM
If y'all members of the KOPD, go to the non-MJ music discussion board, there's a link for a CD called "THE DEATH OF AUTOTUNE". Click on the link and listen to some of the songs, it's funny as hell. I just hope BOTH of them sing without it, lol.

Then again, we don't even know if they're gonna make it on the album. Remember all that stuff he was supposedly doing with Lenny Kravitz, Sisqo, Puffy and 'em on "INVINCIBLE"? :laughing:

t-pain can rap without it.............he did some songs with it, for the vocal effect............................

but im cool with mike using autotune

if u think of every1 who has worked with t-pain to learn autotune, the song hit 1......................lil waynes lollipop? hold the record for most ringtones

but as long as he dosent sound like a robot............im cool

Marni
22nd January 2009, 01:54 AM
Some people forget Michael Jackson is 50 years old now, he's not gonna attract the same audience he attracted at 30, unless they were MJ fans themselves.


True. Mj's doing the usual- using the hottest producers and sounds, experimenting etc, and he'll decide what goes on the cd in the end. I trust his judgment- after all, it's worked in the past. (even as much as I don't like T-Pain and Akon lol).

EssenceOfMagic
22nd January 2009, 02:27 AM
lil waynes lollipop? hold the record for most ringtones

what an achievement :whatever: No wonder. Popular ringtone songs are shiit.

I'd rather Michael go off with Coldplay or the likes. They actually have talent in melody, composition and lyrics. Exactly what Michael needs.

KB50MJ
22nd January 2009, 02:45 AM
what an achievement :whatever: No wonder. Popular ringtone songs are shiit.

I'd rather Michael go off with Coldplay or the likes. They actually have talent in melody, composition and lyrics. Exactly what Michael needs.

Well according to Ne-Yo, MJ is all about melodies on this album. He dosn't want just a hot beat that will be here and gone tommorrow, he wants melodies that will be played years from now.

EssenceOfMagic
22nd January 2009, 03:26 AM
^ That's what Michael always says, but there's been heaps of songs of his, that don't live up to that standard.

mj_13
22nd January 2009, 08:28 PM
so does this confirm then that michael indeed does have another album coming out?

KB50MJ
22nd January 2009, 08:53 PM
so does this confirm then that michael indeed does have another album coming out?

Well we knew since 2006 that he was working on a new album, but we don't know when it will be released.

MJJvibe
23rd January 2009, 12:46 AM
Wasn't it once rumored in the late 1990's that what became "Invincible" was gonna be called "Millenia"?

suga10
23rd January 2009, 05:37 PM
Rule of thumb is when people start talking about how much they worked with MJ and all that stuff...they don't appear on the album. George Michael was supposed to do a duet with MJ for BAD, but was axed after he talked about it - surprise factor was gone. GM did say this back in the day.

I would expect T-Pain and all these modern hippy hoppers to be left off the record. There's limited space on the record and I think fans have forgotten that Michael will have been working on his own stuff...as well as that he's been on the end of the phone with people which means less chance of appearing on the record.

Man, if T-Pain said Neverland...we'd know he was talking rubbish! :lmao:

Really? I never knew MJ and George Michael were planning on a doing a song. I don't know if this is true, but I heard that MJ and Quincy had some issues during the recording of the Bad album (some songs were axed off the album against MJ's desire)- one of the reasons why MJ decided to leave Quincy after Bad.

Thats not the reason why it didn't sell as much as people expected. He looked like that since Dangerous, his hair style just changed.

And Invincible didn't flop, 12 million sold is not a flop at all.

It wasn't a bad selller because its Michael Jackson, but I think it wasn't so great of an album because MJ didn't have any type of vision regarding what way he wanted to go with that album. Its was either a Rodney Jerkins album or too many long ballads. Plus MJ's looks didn't help much either (in the music industry you have to look presentable and goodm it helps!)- his face looked terrible that time, and he was out of shape and sluggish in his stage performances that time. Many people have said that the Madison Square Garden concert was edited like crazy, cause Mike didn't perform upto standard at various points of those shows.

I have to say that he has looked good since 2005, and I'm sure he'll get it right this time. He's taking his time and his kids are grown up now so it helps in a way.

Pompous Git
24th January 2009, 12:30 AM
It's hearsay that MSG broadcast was edited like crazy - just as nonsensical as the whole digital manipulation to make MJ look darker. :blink:

The two shows were simply merged together - more of the 2nd night which wasn't as good and he covered his mouth far more.

Anyway, we'll see if T-Pain makes any kind of cut.

KB50MJ
24th January 2009, 12:43 AM
Really? I never knew MJ and George Michael were planning on a doing a song. I don't know if this is true, but I heard that MJ and Quincy had some issues during the recording of the Bad album (some songs were axed off the album against MJ's desire)- one of the reasons why MJ decided to leave Quincy after Bad.



It wasn't a bad selller because its Michael Jackson, but I think it wasn't so great of an album because MJ didn't have any type of vision regarding what way he wanted to go with that album. Its was either a Rodney Jerkins album or too many long ballads. Plus MJ's looks didn't help much either (in the music industry you have to look presentable and goodm it helps!)- his face looked terrible that time, and he was out of shape and sluggish in his stage performances that time. Many people have said that the Madison Square Garden concert was edited like crazy, cause Mike didn't perform upto standard at various points of those shows.

I have to say that he has looked good since 2005, and I'm sure he'll get it right this time. He's taking his time and his kids are grown up now so it helps in a way.

Well, MJ only worte 2 songs on that album and he didn't even want to do it. He had to do it because he needed to fufill his contract with sony. And he would even leave recording sessions. He didn't even try on that album.

He needs to make his whole album with him with 94% of the creativity like his other albums.

suga10
24th January 2009, 01:00 AM
Damn I didn't know MJ was that unenthusiastic during the recording sessions of Invincible.

Even if he was unhappy with Sony, that's unlike MJ to not care about his albums.

I heard he was quite unhealthy around the time of Invincible too, so might have had some impact on level of enthusiasm on his music.

Pompous Git
24th January 2009, 01:06 AM
Well, MJ only worte 2 songs on that album and he didn't even want to do it. He had to do it because he needed to fufill his contract with sony. And he would even leave recording sessions. He didn't even try on that album.

He needs to make his whole album with him with 94% of the creativity like his other albums.

No, no, no!

Michael was really enthusiastic with Invincible. God, Randy Taraborelli was talking such crap.

Trust me, MJ was happy working on Invincible and sources are Bruce Swedien, Stuart Brawley and Rodney Jerkins. I've proved Taraborelli wrong on this so bad it isn't funny.

He also worked on in the studio longer than the others too. :yes:

A couple of quotes about the recording of Invincible from Bruce Swedien:

At first, we tried it a day or two, and the a cappella just didn't work. His mood and his feeling…it just didn't work. With Michael, it's a deal where you don't just walk up to the mic and sing a piece of music and that's it. That's just not the way it works. We worked a couple of days on this particular thing and he called me in the evening and said, "Bruce it's not right, we have to do it again." But, he's a perfectionist.

And this too:

Michael is without qualification one of the best musicians and vocalists I've ever recorded. And oh, he is a detailed man. For instance, when we record a vocal session, he brings in his vocal coach and warms up for 2 hours before he gets up in front of the mic! Yeah, for 1 or 2 takes he'll do that. I've worked with Michael for close to 25 years, and it's always been this way. He's definitely dedicated and he's a musician's musician. Another example, we'll be working away in the studio and all of the sudden I hear, "clank, clank, bang, scrape," and he's out there moving the tube traps around in the room to change the acoustics!

And goodbye to Taraborelli's crap about MJ walking outta the Invincible recording sessions! :laugh:

KB50MJ
24th January 2009, 02:17 AM
No, no, no!

Michael was really enthusiastic with Invincible. God, Randy Taraborelli was talking such crap.

Trust me, MJ was happy working on Invincible and sources are Bruce Swedien, Stuart Brawley and Rodney Jerkins. I've proved Taraborelli wrong on this so bad it isn't funny.

He also worked on in the studio longer than the others too. :yes:

A couple of quotes about the recording of Invincible from Bruce Swedien:

At first, we tried it a day or two, and the a cappella just didn't work. His mood and his feeling…it just didn't work. With Michael, it's a deal where you don't just walk up to the mic and sing a piece of music and that's it. That's just not the way it works. We worked a couple of days on this particular thing and he called me in the evening and said, "Bruce it's not right, we have to do it again." But, he's a perfectionist.

And this too:

Michael is without qualification one of the best musicians and vocalists I've ever recorded. And oh, he is a detailed man. For instance, when we record a vocal session, he brings in his vocal coach and warms up for 2 hours before he gets up in front of the mic! Yeah, for 1 or 2 takes he'll do that. I've worked with Michael for close to 25 years, and it's always been this way. He's definitely dedicated and he's a musician's musician. Another example, we'll be working away in the studio and all of the sudden I hear, "clank, clank, bang, scrape," and he's out there moving the tube traps around in the room to change the acoustics!

And goodbye to Taraborelli's crap about MJ walking outta the Invincible recording sessions! :laugh:

Oh, I didn't know that. Sorry. I just checked the Randy T. thread. Wow, I thought he was a reliable source, I guess not.

drewhiggins
27th January 2009, 01:22 AM
Wasn't it once rumored in the late 1990's that what became "Invincible" was gonna be called "Millenia"?

If I remember correctly, I thought it was to be titled Colour of Love, and that was gonna be the first single from the album; and You Rock My World was started sometime in 1998 (?).

I also heard that Mike became less interested in the project and absolutely hated recording it.

Pompous Git
27th January 2009, 03:24 AM
If I remember correctly, I thought it was to be titled Colour of Love, and that was gonna be the first single from the album; and You Rock My World was started sometime in 1998 (?).

I also heard that Mike became less interested in the project and absolutely hated recording it.

All of this is actually false info/rumour that had no merit. YRMW couldn't have been touted as a title since MJ didn't start working on Invincible until sometime in 1999. Colour Of Lovve was also a fan made fake title as was Secrets & Millenia.

The bit about MJ hating recording Invincible - another bit of Randy Taraborelli's nonsense. Bruce Swedien talks about MJ being into it all and had spent longer on it than he did - a whole year of pre-production. Bit weird anyone thinking MJ hated the sessions considering all the preparations he did which included expanding his vocal range a bit more with Seth Riggs before recording started.

MrMikeJ
27th January 2009, 03:54 AM
Maybe T Pain will be collaberating on one of the songs like on She Drives me wild? I could have sworn I heard(through a grapevine)that Michaels favorite project was invincible.??
I do not like comercial albums and I'm hoping Micheal means what he said about the new direction.

Pompous Git
27th January 2009, 10:27 AM
OTW is/was a commercial album made to sell to the masses. :blink: It's your fave.

troubleman84
27th January 2009, 11:04 AM
When has Michael NOT been commercial? Hasn't he been this way since the beginning of his career? Let's not forget the label that brought him his first shot at fame (Motown)...

MjsCinderella32
27th January 2009, 11:33 PM
I am so happy about him working with all these people!

MrMikeJ
27th January 2009, 11:51 PM
Why do you say it is commercial if anything Dangerous has the most commercial sounding then Bad if that's what you are saying. Off the Wall is a lot less if at all commercial sounding. I don't like what T pain has to offer or any of the commercial sounding CRAP that all of the music buying or backing people perfer and put out. I don't like to listen to people put down people that have dissed them or when they voice their authority which has no merit or women being sexual objects those are commercial. My favorite era is OTW . Bad is my favorite album. But The Best of Michael is what I prefer most so it would probably be J5.

Pompous Git
28th January 2009, 12:08 AM
Off The Wall is pretty commercial - it was riding on the coat tails of the popularity of disco by the time it came out. Seems to me it was cleverly created to break in MJ as an adult instead of the little J5 laddie.

Commercial basically means appealing to the masses as widely as you can in order to sell huge amounts of records.

dave
1st February 2009, 05:40 PM
But what is commercial? If It's something that sells then MJ has the most commercial albums

troubleman84
1st February 2009, 06:30 PM
MJ been commercial since 1969! :laughing:

drewhiggins
2nd February 2009, 03:24 AM
Just listening to those demos shows his interest and new things he was trying during the sessions. Escape is a great example, and so is Fall Again - a pity that it was never finished.

DJ Gringo
2nd February 2009, 03:30 AM
i like beautiful girl, if he re-does that on the new album, id love to hear Ne-Yo on it

**Stranger in MJs Heart**
2nd February 2009, 03:48 AM
ill just be glad if an album comes out. <3

troubleman84
2nd February 2009, 04:00 AM
^^ These days, that's the only thing you CAN hope. :laughing:

DJ Gringo
3rd February 2009, 03:57 AM
he answering questions bout it

http://www.kyte.tv/nappyboydj#uri=channels/196601/334273

Marni
3rd February 2009, 04:00 AM
^This appears to be a live stream of T-Pain. I am confused. Did he answer MJ questions? If so, what did he say?

DJ Gringo
3rd February 2009, 04:02 AM
he said he just did another track for MJ

Marni
3rd February 2009, 04:14 AM
I thought I'd merge this with the existing T-Pain thread- because it's a live stream and we don't have a transcript and it's T-Pain related :)

troubleman84
3rd February 2009, 04:22 AM
T-Pain, zip your lips before you're kicked out of the album like George Michael circa the BAD era. :lol:

DJ Gringo
3rd February 2009, 05:28 AM
marni, its not 3, accordin to t-pain, its 4

TLC
3rd February 2009, 07:57 AM
What exactly does T-Pain say about his collaboration with Michael Jackson? Does someone have a transcript? Thanks.

cprep20
15th February 2009, 05:03 AM
Im Confused.