Doctor: I saved Jackson from morphine overdose after TV interview in US


Michael Jackson collapsed from a morphine overdose nearly six years ago after working himself into a ‘frenzy of anxiety’ over a TV interview.

A doctor found the star unconscious after being secretly summoned to his rented Beverly Hills home in the middle of the night. Hours earlier, more than 27million viewers in the US had watched

Jackson nervously defend himself against child sex charges.

The incident has never been made public until today. The doctor who treated him has come forward because he believes the apparently accidental overdose has a bearing on the circumstances surrounding Jackson’s death.

It is claimed that shortly before the singer died, he was injected with Demerol, a powerful painkiller similar to morphine. As with the first overdose, Jackson was said to be suffering from acute stress at the time.

In an interview with The Mail on Sunday, the doctor recalled the events of the early hours of December 29, 2003 – and how he also warned Jackson’s family that the star should seek help for his ‘obvious addiction’.

Referring to handwritten notes he made at the time, the doctor, who asked not to be named, said: ‘I’d been treating Michael’s brother Randy for several months when I was awakened by a phone call from him at 1.51am. I was told someone wasn’t well and that they couldn’t call 911 [the US emergency services number] for security reasons.’

Randy sent a car to pick up the doctor, who lived nearby. ‘When I got in it, I asked the driver who was sick and he said, “Michael”.’ Once at the house, the doctor led to a first-floor bedroom where he found the singer, wearing pyjama bottoms, propped up in bed, but unconscious.

‘Michael did not respond to his name but his heartbeat was regular,’ he told The Mail on Sunday. ‘Randy asked, “Is he going to make it?”.’

As the doctor then checked Jackson’s breathing and blood pressure, the pop star seemed to murmur something.

‘I couldn’t understand it but Randy said Michael needed to use the bathroom. Randy and I each took an arm to get him there,’ the doctor said.

‘We then helped him back to bed. His frame was light but not severely malnourished. He probably weighed about 11stone.’

After carrying out further checks, the doctor reassured Randy that he believed his brother ‘would be fine’.

He added: ‘Randy said Michael had been under severe stress because of the television programme which had aired that night.

‘I recall him saying that an earlier TV documentary had caused all manner of problems and that Michael had worked himself into a frenzy of anxiety over this one.’

The first documentary was Living With Michael Jackson, in which British journalist Martin Bashir interviewed the singer over eight months, from May 2002 to January 2003.

In that programme, broadcast in Britain in February 2003, Jackson admitted that many children had shared his bed although he denied any sexual contact. However, the disclosure led to Jackson being investigated by police in California and on December 18, 2003, he was charged with seven counts of sexually abusing a 13-year-old boy.

On December 28, Jackson appeared on US news programme 60 Minutes, during which he was pressed about the allegations. He strongly denied them but maintained it was not wrong to share a bed with a child. At his trial in 2005, Jackson was acquitted of all charges.

The doctor remained in the house until nearly 4am, regularly checking on his famous patient. ‘Randy said he couldn’t call anyone but me when Michael collapsed because he was

terrified of the publicity. It was all cloak-and dagger-stuff and once people in the house realised Michael was going to be all right there was a palpable sense of relief.

‘But I was deeply disturbed by the event. I told Randy that his brother should voluntarily go to a rehabilitation centre to deal with his obvious addiction problem.

‘I advised that Michael must be kept upright that night in case he vomited and inhaled the material, which could possibly cause his death.

‘I told them that his body would break down the narcotics and that he would be fine in several hours.’

Before leaving that night, the doctor left strict instructions that he or the emergency services should be called if the singer showed further signs of distress. He also asked that Jackson be brought to his surgery later that day for an evaluation.

‘I wanted to discuss with Michael directly the damage he was doing to his health and the very real concerns I had for his well-being. I never heard from any of them again.’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196035/Doctor-I-saved-Jackson-morphine-overdose-TV-interview-US.html

everything is becoming quite clear. Its so frustrating knowing MJ had already had and dealt with this problem, yet he let it get to him again. Dont know what to say. Listening to morphine just annoys me now.

And please dont try and rubbish this claim. We all could clearly see MJ was high in the interview.

everything is becoming quite clear.

Indeed, and I fear the scenario played itself out in a similar way on Thursday - perhaps delaying the calling of the emergency services again. Unless the cardiac arrest truly was that sudden

I have no words!

Indeed, and I fear the scenario played itself out in a similar way on Thursday - perhaps delaying the calling of the emergency services again. Unless the cardiac arrest truly was that sudden

well, according to what I can gather they DID call very late. Also in the other article I have posted, the nurse says he looked like he had been dead for a long time. So wouldnt suprise me if they were too scared to call for a long time.

really dont know what to feel anymore...MJ being so stubborn and against everyone who tried to help him really annoys me. it makes me feel a bit less sorry for him.

oh -my-God.

please say this is not true. Oh God - how could he have delayed 911? how?

Actually, this news makes me feel more sorry for him. He was so miserable and this was the only way, that he knew, to heal his pain.*with the drugs* It just makes me feel so bad. I have seen addiction and it is very hard to deal with so maybe my experience makes me feel differently than others but my heart just breaks after reading this. He felt helpless

I agree it is all seeming clearer.. too many people are discussing their experiences, and they all seem to add up.

It is difficult to try and brush this story under the carpet considering the condition Michael was in during that interview, and the events which were going on around him. (allegations)

and yeah.. it makes me think a similar situation happened on Thursday.. especially when listening to the 911 tape again.. the guy seemed a little too calm, like.. as if he were regretfully needing to call 911.

as horrible as it is to say - unconscious and not breathing sounds to me like he was already dead when the call was made, and i bet the caller knew that.

I hate to think that his constant requests for privacy delayed him or embarrassed him from getting any help. I fear that is what is the case.

I hate to think that his constant requests for privacy delayed him or embarrassed him from getting any help. I fear that is what is the case.

this is the saddest thing ever. :(

its heartbreaking - poor Michael.

It's a sad, sad story that is being drawn out of this. Tragic, it truly is. I have no words to describe any of it that hasn't already been said by myself and others.

I hate to think that his constant requests for privacy delayed him or embarrassed him from getting any help. I fear that is what is the case.

thats true. but on the other hand, a competent doctor would have saved him anyway, and he wouldnt need the hospital. looks like he spent an hour giving CPR on the bed when victims die within 7 minutes of a cardiac arrest and CPR needs to be on floor.

There's no guarantee that this particular story is 100% true.

and I don't even recall his behavior in that interview being strange.

maybe I haven't seen it in a while

i don't know what to think about this...

Why do people keep talking like morphines like crack? Morphine is used to get out of pain quickly that's why it's called "powerful", I get a morphine shot all the time when getting a tooth pulled or to relieve the horrible pain of it.

I really hope people don't stop loving him if any of this drug stuff is true.

EDIT: Thank You julius333! ^

There's no guarantee that this particular story is 100% true.

and I don't even recall his behavior in that interview being strange.

maybe I haven't seen it in a while

Exactly! how do you even know it's true?! This sickens me, it really does.

I really hope people don't stop loving him if any of this drug stuff is true.



i won't...

i won't...

I am glad. I am getting that vibe from people *not anyone on this forum* and it would be just heartbreaking if this changed the way that people think of Michael. Absolutely heartbreaking

I really hope people don't stop loving him if any of this drug stuff is true.

EDIT: Thank You julius333! ^

Even if its true - which i am still in hope that it isn't - I won't stop loving him. You don't stop loving someone after 22 years.

Has the person who made the 911 call been identified? When will that Dr. Murray character tell us what happened? There was a doctor with him and this still happened. Doesn't add up...

people are getting leery because they keep saying his "drug addiction", but no one thinks between the difference of illegal drugs and legal drug. Mike wasn't doing anything illegal at all even by using it alot.

and I don't even recall his behavior in that interview being strange.

maybe I haven't seen it in a while

same here...i'll watch it on youtube later...

people are getting leery because they keep saying his "drug addiction", but no one thinks between the difference of illegal drugs and legal drug. Mike wasn't doing anything illegal at all even by using it alot.

whats the difference. The point he was an addict. He might have had pain, but that was no reason to go through decades of his life high on drugs.

btw to the person asked about loving him...ofcourse i'll still love him...i just look at him and his death in a different way now. Had he died from stress from the concerts, it would be more heartbreaking and tragic for me, than dying from something he knew well was going to kill him and that he could prevent.

Moreover, he might have been an amazing father, but denying your kids of having parents is the cruellest thing possible.

same here...i'll watch it on youtube later...

To be honest, he does seem fairly discombobulated. It's quite uncomfortable to watch not only because of the subject matter.

whats the difference. The point he was an addict. He might have had pain, but that was no reason to go through decades of his life high on drugs.

btw to the person asked about loving him...ofcourse i'll still love him...i just look at him and his death in a different way now. Had he died from stress from the concerts, it would be more heartbreaking and tragic for me, than dying from something he knew well was going to kill him and that he could prevent.

Moreover, he might have been an amazing father, but denying your kids of having parents is the cruellest thing possible.

Yes, I will always love him for how he has enriched my life and hundreds of millions others'. But IF, and we know nothing for certain at this point, he was willfully self-destructive and ignored sound counsel from doctors, family, advisors, etc. well then to a certain extent he brought his fate on himself.

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really dont know what to feel anymore...MJ being so stubborn and against everyone who tried to help him really annoys me. it makes me feel a bit less sorry for him.

No...you have to understand a bit about addiction. It's not black and white like that. In essence, addiction is a mental health problem. And it's a vicious circle - you know you need help, but you can't function without your addiction, and so you become stubborn in seeking help. Even when others around you are begging you to do something.

MJ got help in around 1993 for his prescription painkiller problems...but it looks like he fell off the wagon big style, and never got back on it again. :no1:

whats the difference. The point he was an addict. He might have had pain, but that was no reason to go through decades of his life high on drugs.

btw to the person asked about loving him...ofcourse i'll still love him...i just look at him and his death in a different way now. Had he died from stress from the concerts, it would be more heartbreaking and tragic for me, than dying from something he knew well was going to kill him and that he could prevent.

Moreover, he might have been an amazing father, but denying your kids of having parents is the cruellest thing possible.

Because the meds mike were using did not cause him to get "high" so stop saying that. Morphine and demoral do 2 things and 2 things only and that's relieve pain fast and then make you hella sleepy.

Sorry, but this story sounds completely made up - with no concrete evidence or fact to back it up. It's like somebody is trying to come up with a plausible previous occurence of a similar incident.

People NEED to make a very conscious effort to better understand the psychology behind any form of addiction because it's complex and not black & white.

As KQ said, it is a vicious circle. Beechy sure would put some people right in their place when it comes to being ignorant about the nature/psychology of addictions as he was once an alcoholic.

Try to understand the problems Michael faced which were exacerbated by his fame. Michael was a victim of the celebrity culture as it was his celebrity that hastened his passing.

Might I also point out that the United States has major problems with doctors abusing prescription medication. Some use it for themselves, but others abuse the system set up to protect patients in order to make money which is possible.

This is complicated and ignorance doesn't help the situation.

Why do people keep talking like morphines like crack? Morphine is used to get out of pain quickly that's why it's called "powerful", I get a morphine shot all the time when getting a tooth pulled or to relieve the horrible pain of it.

Morphine is an opiate, it's in the same family as heroin. It is very easy to become dependent on it. Michael started taking them for genuine reasons, for injuries he had sustained, he just became too dependent on them, and whoever was supplying them to him should really have been stopped.

Because the meds mike were using did not cause him to get "high" so stop saying that. Morphine and demoral do 2 things and 2 things only and that's relieve pain fast and then make you hella sleepy.

In one way it does, Michael may have only been feeling the pain of withdrawl rather than the pain of actual injuries in the later stages of his life, who knows.
None of this has any effect on the way I feel about Michael, I love and support him 100%, I am just potentially angry at the people/doctors around him that seemed to just be fuelling his dependency on these prescription drugs rather than helping to rehabilitate him.

People NEED to make a very conscious effort to better understand the psychology behind any form of addiction because it's complex and not black & white.

As KQ said, it is a vicious circle. Beechy sure would put some people right in their place when it comes to being ignorant about the nature/psychology of addictions as he was once an alcoholic.

Try to understand the problems Michael faced which were exacerbated by his fame. Michael was a victim of the celebrity culture as it was his celebrity that hastened his passing.

Might I also point out that the United States has major problems with doctors abusing prescription medication. Some use it for themselves, but others abuse the system set up to protect patients in order to make money which is possible.

This is complicated and ignorance doesn't help the situation.

thank you for this. I hate the way people are going to try and make Michael out to be a villain because of this. Like you said - this is not straightforward at all.

No...you have to understand a bit about addiction. It's not black and white like that. In essence, addiction is a mental health problem. And it's a vicious circle - you know you need help, but you can't function without your addiction, and so you become stubborn in seeking help. Even when others around you are begging you to do something.

MJ got help in around 1993 for his prescription painkiller problems...but it looks like he fell off the wagon big style, and never got back on it again. :no1:

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU Killer Queen!

Exactly he was in pain, people keep acting like he was a junkie trying to get a fix.

Exactly he was in pain, people keep acting like he was a junkie trying to get a fix.

Noone here is acting like that. You can be an addict of legal drugs, it doesn't make him a bad man at all. He was troubled by physical pain that got out of control. He just needed the right people by his side to help him.

Wow they just played the clip of him singing the Demerol line on Sky News.

Wow they just played the clip of him singing the Demerol line on Sky News.

i knew they were gonna use that line as 'evidence'......oh sugar :(

I really hope people don't stop loving him if any of this drug stuff is true.

EDIT: Thank You julius333! ^

Michael could have been guilty of the child abuse allegations and i think deep down i would still have loved him! Hearing this isnt going to make me love him any less, i adore the man i just feel really sad that his death may well have been prevented :(

Like killer queen said Michael had an addiction which is a mental illness and after years of trying to fight it it just gets more difficult to kick. Its not that simple to just say he could have easily given up taking the drugs because to an addict it is the most difficult thing to do




Moreover, he might have been an amazing father, but denying your kids of having parents is the cruellest thing possible.

I know every one is saddended by michaels death and coping with their grief in different ways but that is darn right rude and ignorant! Michael cherished his children, i dont think he could have loved anything as much as he did his children and he would NEVER have left them if it was down to him

I lost my mum to heroin just 2 years ago now. I had to practically beg her at the age of 12 to stop. I remember her telling me how she would and how it is soo hard to give it up. I can not begin tell you how i felt when i found out she had lost her life to something like this. i had tried to stop her, but that wasn't good enough. Drugs do take hold of your of your soul and they will one day take it. Even the persuasion of a child cannot stop it them. Now i hate to think Michael was going through a drug problem and sadly lost his life to them, but PLEASE lets not be negative about this whole situation..i know all of us are absolutely devastated beyond belief but lets not change our views and opinions on Michael. He was amazing and only did what was good. It's not his death what counts it's his legacy, please lets make sure that lives on.

Noone here is acting like that. You can be an addict of legal drugs, it doesn't make him a bad man at all. He was troubled by physical pain that got out of control. He just needed the right people by his side to help him.

There has been a revolving door of "people by his side to help him." No doubt many were leeches, parasites, and opportunists but it's also possible MJ relieved some who might have had his best interests at heart. He may not have wanted the "help" they were offering.

thousands at home watching the programs are taking this as evidence because they don't trust what the "news" tells them, and it angers me because people are trying to be informed on what happened and this is what they're getting.

Exactly he was in pain, people keep acting like he was a junkie trying to get a fix.

Strictly speaking, people who are dependent on legal prescription meds and those who are dependent on illegal drugs behave in pretty much the same way.

If you're dependent on prescription meds BEYOND the recommended dosage to relieve pain, then you will do just about anything to get more. Junkies do the same thing.

Whether it's legal prescription meds or illegal drugs, a dependency on either is not good. Both can kill the individual.

In fact, chemically speaking, there is no difference between legal drugs and illegal drugs.

Like I said, people need to better understand the psychology of addiction. We'll know in the coming weeks and months whether Michael really was addicted as well as what happened to him.

But patience and a concerted effort to understand the complex problems Michael faced in his life is of the utmost importance.

I hope everyone is going to be able to do that.

There has been a revolving door of "people by his side to help him." No doubt many were leeches, parasites, and opportunists but it's also possible MJ relieved some who might have had his best interests at heart. He may not have wanted the "help" they were offering.

exactly - so many people are out to make a quick buck off him.

No...you have to understand a bit about addiction. It's not black and white like that. In essence, addiction is a mental health problem. And it's a vicious circle - you know you need help, but you can't function without your addiction, and so you become stubborn in seeking help. Even when others around you are begging you to do something.

MJ got help in around 1993 for his prescription painkiller problems...but it looks like he fell off the wagon big style, and never got back on it again. :no1:

I completely agree with your post.

I can't believe how ignorant and heartless a small minority of people are being in this thread, it breaks my heart, it really does.

There has been a revolving door of "people by his side to help him." No doubt many were leeches, parasites, and opportunists but it's also possible MJ relieved some who might have had his best interests at heart. He may not have wanted the "help" they were offering.

That is true. There were good ones by him, Jesse Jackson, Deepak Chopra, Frank Dileo, even Lisa Marie but they weren't in the later stages close enough to be able to help him. Michael wanted what he wanted and he usually got it. I just think his prescription drug problems were so out of hand and he was too far into it to want the 'good' people around him to stop him. He kept the doctors who gave him what he needed/wanted around him because I honestly don't think Michael knew the real damage he was doing to himself. He still seemed to me quite naive in some situations, perhaps this was one of them, that or he was in denial.

The tabloids/news stations can speculate as we are all they want, but in a few weeks we'll know the real truth and Michael's history will be in peace, and we can lay our minds to rest that he doesn't need to cope with any problems that were weighing him down any more, he's finally free.

^^ I totally agree AGB. That's why I am worried about how some people will handle the news *especially if it is bad news* I do NOT want Michael losing fans over this

I completely agree with your post.

I can't believe how ignorant and heartless a small minority of people are being in this thread, it breaks my heart, it really does.

Noone in this thread is being heartless or ignorant. Discussing the information we've been given is how some of us chose to deal with it.

^^ I totally agree AGB. That's why I am worried about how some people will handle the news *especially if it is bad news* I do NOT want Michael losing fans over this

Am so sure Michael won't lose any fans. He gained fans during the 2005 trial, no one is going to abandon him over this, if anything many non fans may take pity on him. He'll never lose us

Strictly speaking, people who are dependent on legal prescription meds and those who are dependent on illegal drugs behave in pretty much the same way.

If you're dependent on prescription meds BEYOND the recommended dosage to relieve pain, then you will do just about anything to get more. Junkies do the same thing.

Whether it's legal prescription meds or illegal drugs, a dependency on either is not good. Both can kill the individual.

In fact, chemically speaking, there is no difference between legal drugs and illegal drugs.

Like I said, people need to better understand the psychology of addiction. We'll know in the coming weeks and months whether Michael really was addicted as well as what happened to him.

But patience and a concerted effort to understand the complex problems Michael faced in his life is of the utmost importance.

I hope everyone is going to be able to do that.

If you look a illegal drugs, at least llegal drugs in the U.S they are all drugs that put you in a different state, like someone mentioned morphine was in the same family as heroin, but heroin puts you in a trance like state to where your not aware of your actions nor do you care.

That is true. There were good ones by him, Jesse Jackson, Deepak Chopra, Frank Dileo, even Lisa Marie but they weren't in the later stages close enough to be able to help him. Michael wanted what he wanted and he usually got it. I just think his prescription drug problems were so out of hand and he was too far into it to want the 'good' people around him to stop him. He kept the doctors who gave him what he needed/wanted around him because I honestly don't think Michael knew the real damage he was doing to himself. He still seemed to me quite naive in some situations, perhaps this was one of them, that or he was in denial.

I think he really needed a spouse, a life partner, to look after his best interests. It would've been much harder for Michael to dismiss/ignore a spouse.

But dependancy is dependancy - whether a drug is illegal or not, it does not matter. It's how Heath Ledger died, also Marilyn Monroe and Judy Garland. They were all dependant on legal prescription painkillers.

Strictly speaking, people who are dependent on legal prescription meds and those who are dependent on illegal drugs behave in pretty much the same way.

If you're dependent on prescription meds BEYOND the recommended dosage to relieve pain, then you will do just about anything to get more. Junkies do the same thing.

Whether it's legal prescription meds or illegal drugs, a dependency on either is not good. Both can kill the individual.

In fact, chemically speaking, there is no difference between legal drugs and illegal drugs.

Like I said, people need to better understand the psychology of addiction. We'll know in the coming weeks and months whether Michael really was addicted as well as what happened to him.

But patience and a concerted effort to understand the complex problems Michael faced in his life is of the utmost importance.

I hope everyone is going to be able to do that.

I really hope so too. People really need to educate themselves on this topic as it's not as clean cut as people first assume.

As you said, there are many psychological factors that may contribute towards the use of drugs and we need to be able to identify them before making ignorant assumptions.

The overall tone that the media are portraying is that he was some junkie who was constantly over-dosing and completely not w/it most of the time. Disturbingly implying that he was not capable of looking after his childen. That's what I have a hard time dealing with. You'd think that educated journalists would be apply some intelligence and integrity, and report more fairly.

It's becoming apparent that Michael had a dependancy on prescription drugs however I believe that the extent of it being over-exaggerated. Of course we never had any TRUE insight into Michael's living habits to make an accurate evaluation however while out in public, he didn't seem to be as "toxicated" as a "user" would be.

In all honesty. I am finding it really difficult speaking about Michael in this manner. It seems worlds apart from the Michael I grew to understand.

Am so sure Michael won't lose any fans. He gained fans during the 2005 trial, no one is going to abandon him over this, if anything many non fans may take pity on him. He'll never lose us

Yah. You're right. Sorry I am just overacting. This whole situation has got me crazy and emotional and snappy and tons of other things. :/

If you look a illegal drugs, at least llegal drugs in the U.S they are all drugs that put you in a different state, like someone mentioned morphine was in the same family as heroin, but heroin puts you in a trance like state to where your not aware of your actions nor do you care.

Actually, morphine does put people in a trance like state. Fact - it's name comes from the Greek God, Morpheus because of the meaning.

Legal medical drugs can also alter behaviour and moods. Don't think they can't they're legal.

Essentially, all drugs are chemically the same and it's the potency of chemical reactions that vary depending on dosage. You wouldn't believe it, but nutmeg can induce hallucinations, but no one abuses it because it comes with a whole host of nasty side effects such as extreme vomiting.

I think he really needed a spouse, a life partner, to look after his best interests. It would've been much harder for Michael to dismiss/ignore a spouse.

I don't think that was the case sadly. He was married, to Lisa Marie, who as we read in her blog yesterday, she tried to help him so many times, but he wasn't having it, which is probably one of the main reasons they split, as she said she couldn't save him, she had to leave him to his own fate for the sake of raising her own children.

So I have been reading the stories like everyone else about his addiction to painkillers, which had been hidden from the general public for years.

It is very tragic that he has succumbed to his addiction, and it is horrible sad that this talent, his voice, his draw, aura and loving nature is gone. BUT, I feel not one of us can dare judge him for his addiction without realizing that yes he was human,
and yes just like all humans he had his vices and problems.

He had a very complicated and unusual life when compared
to the mass public. Unusual because many of us have never
been raised under the conditions he was.
He seemed to have soaked in all that was around him, and
was perhaps the best example of a bleeding heart. But on
top of all his passion and talent comes stress many of us
will never even experience. And through the stress, isolation,
and constant exposure comes the psychological burdens that
understandably goes hand in hand. plus, Almost everything he did
was misinterpreted and perverted by the media...which in turn I feel broke a part of his spirit. But he put on a smile despite

To live your whole life, shy of only five years, in the spotlight,
isolated from ever, EVER living anything close to a normal
life, and constantly surrounded by people with questionable
motives, would make you
A. paranoid
B. forced to make up a world that fit your life

I feel that the physical pain he has been
said to be going through of the time, painkillers were administered,
and through that, like with most forming addictions, the numbness
of the drugs mixed with his personal problems pushed his hardships
aside enough so that they would not effect him on the same scale.
Many people who suffer from addictions are sucked into that lifestyle,
with (from their point of view) very few reasons and ways to cut it out of their routine to become sober.

No one should think any less of him now dead then what they did before.

In fact, reading about his addiction problems give me peace of mind,
that at last he is truly at peace from the stress, trails, allegations, accusations and lies that were ruining his public image, overshadowing his accomplishments to the masses. He is in no more pain. He no longer has to deal with the isolation of being at the top of the world. He no longer has to defend himself to the world. He is with God, the true giver of his talent. We should ALL be happy that we had a chance to experience all the love he had to give through his music and his humanitarian attributes. This should not be a day of sadness, but a day of rejoice that the wounded songbird in our lives has finally flown away to paradise, as we all will one day.
:playharp:

We have never walked a day in his shoes, and deal with what he has. A understanding heart will and an open mind will clear all negative rumors.


please don't close this post, I'm just clearing the air with understanding

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U67qJybKwY0

I agree with a lot of what you've said.

Michael Jackson clearly was a very complicated psychological case.

Threads on his addiction have been merged.

Thanks for your thoughtful post!
"But They Told Me, A Man Should Be Faithful, And Walk When Not Able, And Fight Till The End But I'm Only Human"

Everything is clear now!! Mj was on drugs over years and years a lotta stuff makes sense now!!!! his image was a lie all this time

^ His image was a lie?

ScarlettFever

i agree with everything you said. Michael Jackson is human, he's had a hard life, if it comes to be that he had an addiction, it's part of a human struggle and it's sad but we can't place all of our judgement in that.

He did too many amazing things in his life to be overshadowed by this. Whether it be the speculation of it or if it ends up being the truth. It is tragic and it's hard but we need to stick by him through thick and thin as we always have. He was a good father to his children and a good man to everyone else.

Everything is clear now!! Mj was on drugs over years and years a lotta stuff makes sense now!!!! his image was a lie all this time

Nothing is ever that simple.

Now i'm really confuse... ¿? he was o drugs? his image was fake? he was high on the interview...?
Could somebody tell me what's up with this?

No one should think any less of him now dead then what they did before.

In fact, reading about his addiction problems give me peace of mind,
that at last he is truly at peace from the stress, trails, allegations, accusations and lies that were ruining his public image, overshadowing his accomplishments to the masses. He is in no more pain. He no longer has to deal with the isolation of being at the top of the world. He no longer has to defend himself to the world. He is with God, the true giver of his talent. We should ALL be happy that we had a chance to experience all the love he had to give through his music and his humanitarian attributes. This should not be a day of sadness, but a day of rejoice that the wounded songbird in our lives has finally flown away to paradise, as we all will one day.:playharp:

We have never walked a day in his shoes, and deal with what he has. A understanding heart will and an open mind will clear all negative rumors.


please don't close this post, I'm just clearing the air with understanding

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U67qJybKwY0

Arrr there i go with the tears again :crymore:

I think you speak a lot of sense and i totally agree. You have worded it so beautifuly! I would give anything to have michael back, i am absolutely heart broken at his passing but especially after hearing all about his addictions i can seek some comfort in knowing that now he no longer has to suffer and he is finally at peace.

He will always live on through us his loving fans and of course his family and friends and i really do hope that it is 'better on the other side'

Everything is clear now!! Mj was on drugs over years and years a lotta stuff makes sense now!!!! his image was a lie all this time
If you're not going to bother reading up on addictions and the psychology, then shut the hell up.

As KQ said, nothing is ever that simple. This is complicated.

I don't think that was the case sadly. He was married, to Lisa Marie, who as we read in her blog yesterday, she tried to help him so many times, but he wasn't having it, which is probably one of the main reasons they split, as she said she couldn't save him, she had to leave him to his own fate for the sake of raising her own children.

Yes, you are correct, Super J. I read that blog as well. Perhaps if he had a spouse without children or if LM had had his children? So many what ifs...

It's sad that this type of thing happen' and He was so scared because of everything..I dont know....anymore...

he did say he was in pain when he was in that interview :[

Yes, you are correct, Super J. I read that blog as well. Perhaps if he had a spouse without children or if LM had had his children? So many what ifs...

Ultimately, no one can save another person when it comes right down to it.

Each person really has to want to save him/herself from their own personal demons.

I'm not surprised by this discovery... I never stopped believing that Michael was hiding the truth from the public eye, that he was in constant physical and emotional pain, and the addiction to painkillers... I feel so sorry for him and that he had to go through such hardships and isolation. He never deserved to feel so bad. He was just not made to be famous, ... No one is.

Fame kills. Michael Jackson, sadly, has become the prime example.

I'm still heartbroken... :(

If Michael was in constant physical and emotional pain...how did he pass the medical tests?

And if he was addicted to prescription medication, how could more than one doctor present at the medical tests miss that?

So many unanswered questions.

Deepak Chopra is now in the studio with Larry King on CNN

Larry asked 'Was he an addict?'
Deepak 'Yes he was', he said he took 'Oxycntin and had shots' and Deeprak says he confronted him many times over this, but Michael would change the subject

I don't know, you're right... This is all so confusing. One part of him was bright, fabulous, active, alive, and the other part was dark, obscure, lonely...

We will never know for sure, no matter how much we want. He will remain a mystery.

Deepak Chopra is now in the studio with Larry King on CNN

Larry asked 'Was he an addict?'
Deepak 'Yes he was', he said he took 'Oxycntin and had shots' and Deeprak says he confronted him many times over this, but Michael would change the subject

Even this doesn't add up.

What IS the truth?

He passed medical tests and AEG got the insurance they were looking for. Granted, 23 shows were insured, but still, why would an insurance company insure someone for 23 shows otherwise?

Toxicology will tell us more about this one. 4-6 weeks time we'll know if any kind of drug was present in MJ's system at a level that would suggest he had a dependency.

Ultimately, no one can save another person when it comes right down to it.

Each person really has to want to save him/herself from their own personal demons.

Of course, but I would wager it is easier to do so if you have have more unconditional love and support on your side.

Poor Michael :(

Of course, but I would wager it is easier to do so if you have have more unconditional love and support on your side.
Unfortunately, too many cases prove it's not easier to beat addiction with unconditonal love from a partner. Usually, the partner unwittingly enables the loved one to continue to remain addicted. Not always.

Unfortunately, too many cases prove it's not easier to beat addiction with unconditonal love from a partner. Usually, the partner unwittingly enables the loved one to continue to remain addicted. Not always.

Well, part of unconditional love, at least as I understand it, is a paramount concern for the welfare of its recipient. If the partner is enabling, then his or her paramount concern obviously wouldn't be for the welfare of the recipient. As you said, this happens "unwittingly...usually {but} not always."

found this on spin.com

Eyes
of a fawn
Illuminated
By a light
Brighter
Than the sun
That rises
At dawn
Innocence immortal
How can it be
That he's gone?
He appeared
An angel
Sent
To save me
From the monsters
In my head
His voice
A joyful noise
Designed
To awaken
The dead
Movement
Like water
Moved me
Beneath
The flesh
At times
When my blood
Seemed
As thick
As lead
How could
A heart
So full
Ever
Stop
Make it stop
The song
That keeps
Playing
In my head
Open your eyes,
Angel,
Show them
You're not dead




so beautiful

Why do people keep talking like morphines like crack? Morphine is used to get out of pain quickly that's why it's called "powerful", I get a morphine shot all the time when getting a tooth pulled or to relieve the horrible pain of it.

Oh, honey, morphine is not good. My uncle's been taking morphine regularly for a decade now, he's in unimagineable pain- says the doctors, after being shot, and my uncle gets too high and starts slurring and falls asleep. Morphine is NOT good.

i have a friend who has sickle cell anemia and has to take demoral and morphine for her immense pain. It's real noticeable when she's on it, and it's highly... HIGHLY addicting.
she keeps being bumped on dosage because you really do become dependent and somewhat immune to it after a while. But she is also stubborn about it, and does not see it as a real addiction, because that high becomes your norm, and getting off of it means breaking from that 'norm' and becoming less numb, feeling more...
which most addicts try to avoid

so we know he has taken this stuff before... just dosent seem right he got cardiac arrest though

morphine is a strange drug i m on it for almost 20 yrs now let me tell you the issue is that when you switch from one kind to another these things like od can happene easy like i had a chanbge from the factory making them a month or so ago and with my first pills they took 5 min to work so i thought the new ones where the same and nothing happened still pain after haLf an hour so i took some more nothing stilll pain after an hour so i thought the were weaker and next thing i know is waking up half a day later with my dad besides me so all it takes is another docter or another farmacie or another brand to make this happen
i just hope and pray that this is not what happend to michael now that would make it more painfull to me i survive those things of and on each time i switch docters or get a new painkiller something weird happen from allergic reactions to od and then he dies no that cant be my god now i cry again while i managed to survive the craziest things no way it should not be he should be here on earth long after me thats what i always thought thats why seeing him meant so much to me after being a fan for 35 yrs and stay a fan till the day i go

I really hope people don't stop loving him if any of this drug stuff is true.

EDIT: Thank You julius333! ^


even if there is an element of truth to this it doesn't change my fandom.

RIP MJ

Your story even makes me feel more sad!!!! Thanks God that you have survived - I really hope that this was not the case why Michael had to go from this world so early!!! :tear: